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 Post subject: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
PostPosted: 14 Jun 2017, 22:01 
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In which books there are picnics? They could be rambles where pupils take food with them or day trips (eg Princess and the Zillertal). Which ones can you think of?

Also does anyone know how many nationalities were represented over the whole series? Is there a list anywhere?

I have an idea for a drabble which may or may not come to fruition.

Many thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
PostPosted: 14 Jun 2017, 23:12 
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Should think there's a picnic/ramble in nearly every book when in Austria, very few in England/Wales, only one I can think of is when they visit Kester Bellever's island and take a picnic. There are fewer in Switzerland - most of their trips seem to be to towns/cities and they eat in restaurants.

Nationalities - don't think I've seen a list. Can think of - England, Scotland . Irelamd, Wales, Australia, USA, Kashmir, Austria, Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland, Russia, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Hungary, Belsornia, possibly Spain though I can't think who, ditto Portugal.


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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Thanks, ivohenry.

Picnics - probably in only in the summer term surely? So that will narrow down my searching. Thanks for the Kester Bellever tip. I hadn't thought of that one. I think that they sometimes take food on longer rambles in Switzerland.

Swedish? who is that? I couldn't think of any Spanish girls either but I too thought there should be at least one!

More answers welcome. Many thanks in advance. I was just trying to narrow down my search a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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thefrau46 wrote:
Thanks, ivohenry.

Picnics - probably in only in the summer term surely? So that will narrow down my searching. Thanks for the Kester Bellever tip. I hadn't thought of that one. I think that they sometimes take food on longer rambles in Switzerland.

Swedish? who is that? I couldn't think of any Spanish girls either but I too thought there should be at least one!

More answers welcome. Many thanks in advance. I was just trying to narrow down my search a bit.


Wasn't there a Spanish girl in one of the later books? I have a vague memory of someone who was asked to do fortune telling at one of the Fairs/Sales, and I think she was Spanish......Dolores, maybe?? She was in the same era as the Triplets being Prefects I think. Can't check t uout though cos I'm at work, sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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Isn't Arda Dutch?
I may have made that up.


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LucyP wrote:
Isn't Arda Dutch?
I may have made that up.


Yes she is, just thinking there must be someone!


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LucyP wrote:
Isn't Arda Dutch? I may have made that up.
Yes, definitely Arda Peik and her friend Renata van Buren; probably also Rosa van Buren, Arda van der Windt, Lilli van Goeschen and Lilli van Huysen, all of whom are in Tyrol.

Dolores Zaragova is the Spanish girl who is suggested as a fortune-teller at a Sale but is too shy IIRC.

ETA: Astrid Anderssen in Summer Term is probably Swedish or Norwegian, though I can't remember it being stated explicitly - she could even be American, Canadian or Australian, after all...


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Isn't there a Manuela at some point too?

I can think of one picnic sometime early in the Swiss era; someone in Mary Lou's Gang spills her flask of milk in her rucksack.

Do they also take picnics when they go down to Thun to bathe?


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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Isn't there a Manuela at some point too?
It's odd, because I thought there might have been one, but evidently not among the CS girls, according to a list in the Archived section of LB&LB: here.
There might be a few more mentions of nationality in Kenya (I think), where they have the songs and dances of many lands as part of a Sale.


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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Noreen wrote:
JayB wrote:
Isn't there a Manuela at some point too?
It's odd, because I thought there might have been one, but evidently not among the CS girls, according to a list in the Archived section of LB&LB: here.
There might be a few more mentions of nationality in Kenya (I think), where they have the songs and dances of many lands as part of a Sale.

Thanks. This list is just what I needed.
I don't need any more information on nationalities. Please continue if you are enjoying thinking of them though! :D

More picnics welcome but I think I have enough to start planning. Thanks, JayB for your suggestions.


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Oh, you're welcome :) . All sorts of useful stuff lurks in the archived threads, after all...


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Picnics I can think of off-hand while at work:
The one in School At where they get caught in a storm and have to shelter in a herdsman's hut :D
The one in Exile used as a front to hide the Peace League document
They take food with them on the ramble in Theodora
We're never told if it went ahead or not, but there was talk of hosting a picnic for the evacuees of Howells in Goes To It

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There are quite a few picnics in Switzerland when they go off for a ramble and when they go swimming. There are also sometimes picnic lunches when they go off on half term visits if that counts.

I think it's in Kenya where Hilary (Mary Lou's friend) spills her milk.


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One of the few other UK picnics takes place on the trip to Bosherston to see the lily ponds: meat and fruit pies, sandwiches, cakes and biscuits, plus coffee and milk. It's only for the few girls who're around at half-term, though.


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Many thanks, everyone. Now I have to do some reading to decide whether I can turn my germ of an idea into a drabble.


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I suppose the trip to Bourneville could be counted as a picnic - they eat their lunch on the coach during a non-stop journey of several hours (seem to remember 5 hours but not sure)


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Noreen wrote:
JayB wrote:
Isn't there a Manuela at some point too?
It's odd, because I thought there might have been one, but evidently not among the CS girls, according to a list in the Archived section of LB&LB: here.
There might be a few more mentions of nationality in Kenya (I think), where they have the songs and dances of many lands as part of a Sale.


There is a Manela, not Manuela, who is a younger sister of Samantha Van der Byl (Two Sams at the Chalet School) She and her sister Ermina had both had mumps, which is why Samantha only starts school in the January term, not in September. (Chambers ed. p 10)


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 Post subject: Re: Two questions: picnics and nationalities
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Noreen wrote:
LucyP wrote:
Isn't Arda Dutch? I may have made that up.
Yes, definitely Arda Peik and her friend Renata van Buren; probably also Rosa van Buren, Arda van der Windt, Lilli van Goeschen and Lilli van Huysen, all of whom are in Tyrol.

Dolores Zaragova is the Spanish girl who is suggested as a fortune-teller at a Sale but is too shy IIRC.

ETA: Astrid Anderssen in Summer Term is probably Swedish or Norwegian, though I can't remember it being stated explicitly - she could even be American, Canadian or Australian, after all...


Swanhild Alvarasen is another Scandinavian, think she may be Swedish?


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