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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 00:00 
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whether I am logged into Sally Denny, logged out, at home (Firefox) or at work (Explorer). I had assumed they were merely a work in progress!

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 02:34 
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I'm guessing that it should be ok, but if we do update as we go, is that still ok as long as we edit and add it to a chapter? So for example the update might only be 500 words, but each next update is added within the same chapter, which seems to work ok from my marathon moving session.

I'm guessing that it might not then notify people of the update until a new chapter is added ?

That then does allow people who are interactive drabbling to carry on adding smaller updates if they want to, and if that is what their readers want, smaller and more frequent rather than longer and less often. rather than having to wait until a larger amount is done. Will that cause any logistical problems ?

Btw like the new comment at the top of the submissions rules ...

Hope this doesn't count as an issue that isn't there. I'm only asking as I don't really understand RSS feeds etc, and don't want to be clogging anything up, but sometimes a smaller update suits some of the more interactive drabbles.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 04:28 
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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 05:10 
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Is there anyway to mark on the SDL if this a story that was on the board say 3 years ago, or something new now?

(I cant always remember what I ahve read in the past

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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Hope I am allowed another question
Clarification pleaes,
Where are current drabbles being updated, on the board or on SDL?
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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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keren wrote:
Hope I am allowed another question
Clarification pleaes,
Where are current drabbles being updated, on the board or on SDL?
Or both??

Currently that's up to the author. From the start of phase two (some time round the beginning of July), fic will only be updated on the SDL as the drabbles on the board will be locked.

keren wrote:
Is there anyway to mark on the SDL if this a story that was on the board say 3 years ago, or something new now?

Unfortunately not. It shouldn't be a problem once everyone's posted their previous fics, so in the future, "recent updates" should actually be recent updates!!

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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Kathy_S wrote:
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whether I am logged into Sally Denny, logged out, at home (Firefox) or at work (Explorer). I had assumed they were merely a work in progress!

Hopefully this is fixed now - let me know if it still doesn't work.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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Mmm, fic recs and "can you help me I'm looking for a fic where Jack got turned into a frog" kind of things... I like it...


Jack Lambert or Jack Maynard? :lol: :lol:

Will Joey's Trunk still exist? Or could there be a 'Help, I'm stuck' sort of thread, where those people looking for inspiration can post and get ideas?


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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 10:35 
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Beecharmer wrote:
I'm guessing that it should be ok, but if we do update as we go, is that still ok as long as we edit and add it to a chapter? So for example the update might only be 500 words, but each next update is added within the same chapter, which seems to work ok from my marathon moving session.

I'm guessing that it might not then notify people of the update until a new chapter is added ?

That then does allow people who are interactive drabbling to carry on adding smaller updates if they want to, and if that is what their readers want, smaller and more frequent rather than longer and less often. rather than having to wait until a larger amount is done. Will that cause any logistical problems ?

Btw like the new comment at the top of the submissions rules ...

Hope this doesn't count as an issue that isn't there. I'm only asking as I don't really understand RSS feeds etc, and don't want to be clogging anything up, but sometimes a smaller update suits some of the more interactive drabbles.


Speaking personally that would lose me as a reader as I would never bother to check chapters I had already read in case they had been edited. I am as guilty as anyone about short updates but I think it will be good for me to be pushed into properly updating with the emphasis on reader-friendliness.


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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 10:58 
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I'd agree that going back and editing chapters would confuse people and that it'd be better to post one whole chapter at a time but, just as a general query, how much would people suggest posting as one chapter? I normally post a page or two of font size 10 at a time, but earlier this year I asked about post lengths because I was going to post a 15 pages (of Word, font size 10) all in one go for the Un-Valentine's Day drabble and the general consensus was that 15 pages was way too much to read on a computer screen in one go (especially if reading whilst pretending to be working :lol: ).

Can anyone who's used to reading or writing fanfic on an SDL-type site give us some pointers :D ?

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 11:02 
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Surely the length of a chapter can't be defined precisely? Is it not down to the author to make chapter breaks that are appropriate for the story that is being written? And for their style of writing?

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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Obviously chapter length is going to vary by story, but I was just thinking in terms of how much people would want to read at once. As I said, when I mentioned the subject earlier this year most people said that they found 15 pages, for example, too much to read in one go.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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cestina wrote:
Surely the length of a chapter can't be defined precisely? Is it not down to the author to make chapter breaks that are appropriate for the story that is being written? And for their style of writing?


This seems eminently sensible.


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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
PostPosted: 02 Jun 2011, 12:35 
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Thanks for bothering to reply, I just really don't like changing pages when reading which is one reason why I have never been that interested in fanfic sites. So would prefer to add gradually to one chapter even while doing a social part of my drabble.

I just wanted to know really how that would show up on the feed, my feeling is that it will only show as an update when a chapter is done. Therefore those who know the Drabble might be updated in little clifflets can still go and look, but those who want to read a chunk at a time can look at a chapter as and when they want to.

It might mean occasionally someone loses a bit of plot, but mostly I think it would just provide a bit of both world, so people don't lose the story in short updates or lose the interaction by having to wait a few days for a few posts.

But how and where people update will be how they enjoy doing it, whether on the CBB or elsewhere. No one should be feeling they have to conform to anything if it hampers their enjoyment of drabbling.

The key thing I am trying to confirm is that by adding within a current chapter that I am not going to create a load of Beecharmer is spouting off again update on the RSS feed. Because that would annoy me, and is of no use to anyone. I don't use things like RSS feeds as I am very rarely on the computer nowadays so I won't be able to tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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Responding to Alison's query - I have been rather naughty and uploaded about 12 pages of A4 text (about 8000 words!) as a single chapter (I was trying out the uploading system). Can I split this into several chapters?

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Emma A wrote:
Responding to Alison's query - I have been rather naughty and uploaded about 12 pages of A4 text (about 8000 words!) as a single chapter (I was trying out the uploading system). Can I split this into several chapters?


Once you've added it, there isn't a function to split one chapter into several. It's horses for courses, though - for a long fic I personally prefer to read it in one go, so there's no need for lots of chapters if authors don't want to post that way.

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 Post subject: Re: Moving all the fic off the CBB
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I have started adding Marjorie to the SDL, just to see if I could, which I managed, but I couldn't work out how to add more than one character. Can someone explain this to me, as I am sure, from looking at others it is possible, but clearly I am being a bit thick!

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Elle wrote:
I have started adding Marjorie to the SDL, just to see if I could, which I managed, but I couldn't work out how to add more than one character. Can someone explain this to me, as I am sure, from looking at others it is possible, but clearly I am being a bit thick!


Press the 'control' key when you select another character. :D

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Elle wrote:
I have started adding Marjorie to the SDL, just to see if I could, which I managed, but I couldn't work out how to add more than one character. Can someone explain this to me, as I am sure, from looking at others it is possible, but clearly I am being a bit thick!


Press the 'control' key when you select another character. :D


Ah! Thanks, will give that a go :)

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