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 Post subject: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 20 Oct 2018, 17:39 
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I am starting HEGS#5 since I see the previous thread is now on 25 pages. (Have we really gone through 4x25 pages already?)

Abbeybufo mentioned on the October whinges thread that she is finding it tricky to get back on the 5:2 eating plan that had been very successful for her a couple of years back but that she had slipped off. Alison H is also struggling at the moment though not I think with Intermittent Fasting such as 5:2.

I had the same problem as abbey - lost a lot happily on 5:2 and then slipped off it, put some of the lost weight back on and then struggled to get back to 5:2.

As I came through Germany this summer the friend I stay with mentioned a doctor friend of her son-in-law, Eckert von Hirschhausen, who is also a well-known TV presenter and journalist, who had lately become famous for his promotion of the 16:8 method of Intermittent Fasting. I had read about it when I was researching 5:2 but hadn't been tempted by it.

I listened to some of his programmes and decided to give it a go. I started when I got back to the CR towards the end of May and have so far lost, with no effort whatsoever, 11kg (1stone10lbs). Not a superfast weight loss, but for me, as I said, effort-free.

The idea is that you have an 8 hour eating window in every 24 hours during which you can eat what you please, and for 16 hours you eat nothing at all though you can of course drink water or other calorie-free drinks.

Since for a substantial chunk of those hours you are asleep, or at least in bed, that time passes unnoticed. And because I have never really needed to eat until about noon (though that hasn't stopped me starting much earlier!), but do like to eat in the evening, it has been easy for me to adjust to a life-style which involves the first meal at any time from noon to one or two pm, depending on what time I finish eating the night before (usually by 9pm).

I realise that this breakdown of hours may not suit many people but a pattern of 9am-5pm works for some, 10am-6pm for others, or whatever fits for you.

I am usually busy from getting up to heading off to the Small Worlds museum at 11am and although I have my lunch with me, ready to eat at maybe noon or 1pm, I have often found that museum visitors have meant that I can't get to it till an hour or so later. And that's fine too.

And the 8 hour window has meant that I have broken the very bad habit of taking fruit and other snacks to bed with me....

Eckart von Hirschhausen (this link just for German speakers) says he doesn't do it every day (he says twice a week is enough). I don't think that would work for me and I find every day except Sundays easier to stick to.

And it has quickly become habit-forming. The idea of eating breakfast is now alien, as is the idea of having even a glass of wine after the window closes! Long may it last....

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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 09:06 
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wondering if I could try this...


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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 14:44 
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It sounds interesting and really doable. I think I will give it a go. I need to look for an English article about it.

Also, does anyone on here have any experience of Overeaters Anonymous? I have a friend who is struggling badly with all sorts of eating issues and I wondered if this might be the way for her to try and address things.


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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 15:28 
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I went to Overeaters Anonymous once but was scared by the commitment it would have needed to continue. It was based on Alcoholics Anonymous and used the same steps. This was some years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 16:08 
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I went to Overeaters Anonymous once but was scared by the commitment it would have needed to continue. It was based on Alcoholics Anonymous and used the same steps. This was some years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 16:11 
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I have been told, very severely, by my doctor that I must eat three times a day. As he said, 'Never mind the number of meals, just eat healthily.'

In fact, when I was skipping meals, I'd get very weak-kneed, and not be able to do anything.

Cause for alarm, resulting in having to have a second colonoscopy. So I eat three times a day. As anyone will tell you, if they've had one of those procedures, the preparation is worse than the actual event.

BTW: did anyone else look at the screen when having a colonoscopy, and see the interior of the bowl as peach-coloured?

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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 20:34 
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I go to Overeaters Anonymous and thoroughly endorse it. It is based on AA but there isn't really a big commitment. Yes there are the 12 steps, and I'm very slowly trying to work my way through them, and I've had to find a way to embrace a "higher power". But anything has got to be better than the compulsive overeating which has ruled my life for years, and when you are as desperate as most of us are when we walk through the doors, what have you got to lose? The people there are wonderful, the support is great, and everyone understands! I will happily commit to working the program rather than destroying myself physically and mentally with food.
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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2018, 20:58 
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I've thought about it, but never tried it because I'm not good in a group situation. It sounds very helpful, Joanne - glad it worked for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Healthy Eating Support Group #5
PostPosted: 27 Oct 2018, 12:14 
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Jennie wrote:
BTW: did anyone else look at the screen when having a colonoscopy, and see the interior of the bowl as peach-coloured?


I thought exactly the same.

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