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 Post subject: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 14:23 
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I just wanted to express my horror at last night's atrocity at the concert in Manchester Arena.

My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families, and everyone else affected by the outrage. According to what I've heard and read so far, most of the victims seem to have been children and young people.

(It did make me wonder why such a concert was held on a school night.)

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 14:56 
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I was just about to post and enquire whether any CBB-ers had been at the Manchester Arena when I saw Cal's post.

I'm horrified that the bomber(s) chose to target an event which was attended by so many children and teenagers - I can't even begin to imagine the horror both they, and their families are going through, even now, almost 15 hours after the blast. Thoughts and prayers go out to all those affected.

(Like Cal, though, I admit to being really surprised that such a concert was scheduled on a school night)


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 15:02 
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It's truly appalling, but ISIS seem to have forgotten that we survived the Blitkrieg and the IRA Bombings, and we're still here.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 15:08 
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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 15:13 
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I too found the fact that the attack seemed to have been deliberately aimed at children and young people particularly horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 16:44 
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Attack just horrible, even more so as it targeted youngsters.

Thinking of all those involved and everyone living in that area. Love and prayers.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 17:49 
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This has been the worst day in our city's history in my lifetime, and it's been difficult to try to carry on as close to normal as possible. But we'll get there. I live about 3 1/2 miles from the Arena and have been there many times. It could have been any of us, but it's particularly horrific that it was a concert at which so many of those attending were children. Thoughts are with all those affected. #ACityUnited.

ETA - concerts are often held on school nights. Overseas artists would be staying in the UK for umpteen nights with nothing to do if all their concerts in different cities were at weekends.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 18:24 
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How horrible it is. Music is supposed to be a happy thing. I can't imagine how the pop singer must feel.

As for concerts on a school night - I go to concerts on a work night :) I think this was only one date out of a handful she waa doing in the UK. It would've been a treat for many. People travelled from Scotland to attend. We shouldn't judge because "it was on a school night" .

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 19:23 
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I find it hard to accept that such an atrocity against children took place just a few miles up the road from me. I get off the tram at that particular station when I go into Manchester. Thank goodness for the swift reaction of the police and ambulance services, but the idea of young children being deliberately targeted and then getting separated from parents and wandering around alone in the dark is appalling, terrifying. But then you hear the other side of that horror, with people offering concert goers a bed for the night, or taxi drivers charging nothing to take them home.

SLOC and I are thinking of the dead and injured, but also thanking God that so many did escape injury, although some of those children will never forget seeing such a scene from Hell.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 23 May 2017, 20:03 
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I just cannot comprehend what goes on in the minds of these killers. My thoughts are with all those affected.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 24 May 2017, 11:49 
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I lived in Madrid at the time of the bombings there (2004) and I remember that it affected the city for months afterwards, even those not directly affected. I'm sure it's the same in London, Paris and other cities that have been hit more recently by terrorist activity.

On the positive side, it was wonderful to see the response of the emergency services and so many 'ordinary' people (not ordinary at all in my book). Definitely the spirit of the Blitz.

ETA I understand Alison's explanation of why such concerts may be held on school/work nights. My comment on that was, I realise in hindsight, what the psychologists would call 'displaced anger'. There is no excuse for terrorism in any form at any time or in any place.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 16:48 
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Not boasting. We flew the flag at half-mast today, so our town could remember these poor children and their families.

I can't get over it. What satisfaction is there in killing poor young people who never harmed those who injured or killed them?

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 17:37 
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Jennie wrote:
I can't get over it. What satisfaction is there in killing poor young people who never harmed those who injured or killed them?
I know - but we're thinking not just logically but humanely, Jennie.

Unfortunately, the perpetrators of these atrocities have long ago let their ideologies overcome any humanity they ever had, and lives are of no importance to them.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 18:26 
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We went out into the garden at 11 for a minute's silence at work today.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 18:30 
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I haven't had chance to go into town yet because I've been stuck at work all week, but I'm hoping to go on Saturday. I was wondering if the car park I usually go in was open, because it's right opposite the Arena, but have just seen a report on the news and I could see cars in it, so it is ... really weird seeing such familiar places all over the news reports. We observed the minute's silence at work as well. It's been the most strange week.

I'm going to a concert at the Arena at the end of June. I've been there so many times. I remember it being built. It's so hard to take all this in, especially seeing the pictures of the victims.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 19:44 
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We had a silence today, generally well observed although a few customers just carried on shopping. Maybe they didn't realise that our company lost a member of staff in the attack.

I have to admit though, that this hasn't upset me as much as the Westminster attack, possibly because I walked over the bridge 48 hours earlier. I was pondering putting a picture on facebook because I love that view...

The Manchester attack is such a terrible waste of life , seems even worse when the victims were all so young


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 20:55 
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Have been really touched here in a small village in France how many people have expressed their horror and sadness. It's not just people who I know well but just people I pass in the street on a regular basis and say "Bonjour". Hopefully, these are the sort of people who will prevail and not those who have hate in their hearts and hold life cheap.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 25 May 2017, 22:11 
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lizco wrote:
Have been really touched here in a small village in France how many people have expressed their horror and sadness. It's not just people who I know well but just people I pass in the street on a regular basis and say "Bonjour". Hopefully, these are the sort of people who will prevail and not those who have hate in their hearts and hold life cheap.


Indeed, lizco.

Edited to add. They are all heartbreaking but I find this one particularly so.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 26 May 2017, 10:52 
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I didn't even know about the minute's silence until it was too late. I didn't hear it mentioned on the news before I got to work. There was an email that came out about one of the victims but I didn't get the chance to read it properly and it wasn't until afterwards that I saw the two lines tacked onto the end about observing a minute's silence at 11. What's even worse is that not knowing, I actually asked a question of my boss who did know and hushed me. She was fine about it but I'm so annoyed. If they'd sent out a separate email about the minute's silence or even a reminder like they do with the Armistice, then I'd have seen it.

It has been a horrible week but for the victims and their families and friends, the horror will go on for a long time after the cameras and journalists have gone and the worst has faded from the minds of the rest of us.


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester Arena Victims
PostPosted: 27 May 2017, 16:38 
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I've been into town today, to take some flowers to St Ann's Square and sign the book of condolence at the Town Hall. I was overwhelmed by how many flowers, cards and balloons had been placed there.

There are fundraising efforts going on everywhere. I passed a local tattoo parlour at about half 10 this morning and the queue was spilling out on to the street: it's become a "thing" for people who are into tattoos to get one of the Manchester worker bee, and tattoo artists are donating the money to the fund. Buses going into town are displaying "We love Manchester" alternating with the bus route and number.

At some point, it will fade away and life will go on as before, but not for the families and friends of the people who died, and those who've been left with life-changing injuries.

It's been such a strange week. It was supposed to be all about the Europa League final, and instead it's been this.

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