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 Post subject: Re: Pedantry is alive and kicking on this board
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2018, 20:50 
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I've just read a book in which horses and riding play a prominent part - and in which people wear "jhodpurs" all the way through...
Oh dear. Probably jhodpur boots as well...


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Has anyone noticed the latest trend to use "putter" to mean "mutter" or "grumble"? I've noticed it in more than one recently published book, by different authors, in different genres from different countries...it really gets on my nerves! If you want to use a different word, can't you double check it's truly a synonym on theasurus.com?
Th temptation to go through books with a red pen, and return, with corrections, to the author is sometimes overwhelming...

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 Post subject: Re: Pedantry is alive and kicking on this board
PostPosted: 31 Jan 2018, 14:45 
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Well, do it. It might make authors realise that some of us still value the proper use of language.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedantry is alive and kicking on this board
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mrs helston wrote:
Has anyone noticed the latest trend to use "putter" to mean "mutter" or "grumble"? I've noticed it in more than one recently published book, by different authors, in different genres from different countries...it really gets on my nerves! If you want to use a different word, can't you double check it's truly a synonym on theasurus.com?
Th temptation to go through books with a red pen, and return, with corrections, to the author is sometimes overwhelming...
I hadn't, as it happens. It's immensely familiar to me as a piece of East Anglian dialect, so I wouldn't normally use it in formal written English - and I think it makes better sense to use the more familiar 'mutter and putter' anyway. Surprisingly, the earliest quote in the OED online is 1611: Cotgrave's Dictionary of the French & English Tongues...


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Noreen wrote:
I hadn't, as it happens. It's immensely familiar to me as a piece of East Anglian dialect, so I wouldn't normally use it in formal written English - and I think it makes better sense to use the more familiar 'mutter and putter' anyway. Surprisingly, the earliest quote in the OED online is 1611: Cotgrave's Dictionary of the French & English Tongues...


Thanks Noreen, I hadn't realised it was a common phrase, I assumed it was a misspelling. That's what I love about this board- you're always learning something new!

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You're welcome - thank you for commenting on it, because I hadn't seen the recent use of it. :)


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Noreen wrote:
You're welcome - thank you for commenting on it, because I hadn't seen the recent use of it. :)

Are you sure that you don't mean, "Your well come.", Noreen? :lol: :lol:


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I know! Much more cool, like, innit?

I saw the following on another forum recently, among comments about a new block of student accommodation being built:

"look out on this everyday what a eyesaw"

I resisted posting back "It's a bit like your English, then!" There's evidently a war on, with severe punctuation rationing... I also resisted joking about it being something to do with the sharp angularity of the building. I mostly do resist - people may be dyslexic, or have had a poor education through no fault of their own, but how can this person not hear the need for 'an' not 'a' in front of 'eyesaw' (sic)?


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An "eyesaw" sounds rather more painful than an eyesore, as well ... :roll: .

Furthermore, if you are looking for a new job, then referring to "vacancy's" does not really make a very good impression.

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 Post subject: Re: Pedantry is alive and kicking on this board
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I must admit the thought of an "eyesaw" made me laugh out loud, though I'd hate to experience such a thing! But as for writing "vacancy's" in a job application - the mind boggles!!


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Can't remember which one, but I was a little surprised when one of the television channels informed me in advance that, "This programme contains language."

Ah yes, that ranks nicely alongside "There is a lot of weather about tonight..."


Oh yes, that's another. Way back, I actually worked in the Met Office for a number of years and in those days it was drummed into us not to use that phrase.

I've often wondered when archeologists talk about finding "archeology" if it isn't the same thing. Doesn't everything, even the soil have an archeological significance? Or am I taking it a step too far?!


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mrs helston wrote:
Th temptation to go through books with a red pen, and return, with corrections, to the author is sometimes overwhelming...


I've come across library books where readers have done the first half of your suggestion :(


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I'm reading a book now where a character is in a park crying because she's lost her sister. Ten pages later but the same day in the plot she's "crying for the first time in years". :roll:

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Elder in Ontario wrote:
I must admit the thought of an "eyesaw" made me laugh out loud, though I'd hate to experience such a thing! But as for writing "vacancy's" in a job application - the mind boggles!!


I can't count the number of CVs and cover letters I've looked at, from people applying to teach English, riddled with spelling and grammar mistakes. Definitely not the way to get yourself an interview!

A while ago my friend did a fashion-related event and got a message from one of the participants asking her for copies of any photos she had, because she wanted her portfolio to look "provetional".


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When was the process of making a complaint (which, to be fair, has been resolved after one e-mail) renamed "reaching out to us"?!

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 Post subject: Re: Pedantry is alive and kicking on this board
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Alison H wrote:
When was the process of making a complaint (which, to be fair, has been resolved after one e-mail) renamed "reaching out to us"?!


Maybe around the same time they decided to stop reading complaint emails, and send out a generic and largely irrelevant response instead, requiring the original email to be repeated up to 3 times and making the complainer progressively angry?


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Seen on a local radio station's website this morning: "Consistent snow may hamper commutes today." Surely that should be "persistent snow" !!!! :banghead:


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Elder in Ontario wrote:
Seen on a local radio station's website this morning: "Consistent snow may hamper commutes today." Surely that should be "persistent snow" !!!! :banghead:


Maybe they've been out and measured its depth everywhere? :lol:

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Grr only Day Two (or is it One, am totally confused by the time difference and also the fact that some things started before the Official Opening) of the Winter Olympics and I am ready to throw something at the TV if I hear much more of the phrase "He/she has created history...."

ETA And don't the commentators just witter! Infuriating. Oh for some informed commentary....

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cestina wrote:
Grr only Day Two (or is it One, am totally confused by the time difference and also the fact that some things started before the Official Opening) of the Winter Olympics and I am ready to throw something at the TV if I hear much more of the phrase "He/she has created history...."

ETA And don't the commentators just witter! Infuriating. Oh for some informed commentary....


Clare Balding talking about athuletes yesterday did it for me!


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