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 Post subject: Re: Another Royal Baby Names Thread
PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 11:08 
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I didn't see that coming, especially as Louis is George's third name. Prince Philip will be so pleased they've chosen Lord Mountbatten's name. It'll certainly please the bookies - I don't think there were too many bets on Louis!

ETA - hmm, just remembered that Earl Spencer's son and heir, William's first cousin, is called Louis, so there's a definite Spencer link in there, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Royal Baby Names Thread
PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 11:22 
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Yes, the bookies should be breathing a bit easier this morning - apparently they were panicked into closing betting on Albert when there was a flurry of bets on it late yesterday. And Louis may or may not please the French...


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PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 11:42 
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The Daily Mail (sorry) says Louis was 20/1 so a good day for the bookies.


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PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 12:14 
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Yes, the bookies should be breathing a bit easier this morning - apparently they were panicked into closing betting on Albert when there was a flurry of bets on it late yesterday. And Louis may or may not please the French...


I've been trying to work out if there's a direct connection to all the French Louis (what is the plural of Louis?! Loues?!). There is from Louis IX via the Bourbons - from Henrietta Maria to Charles II and through various illegitimate lines to the Queen Mother and Diana - but I'm not sure about Louis XIII, XIV et al ... probably not, because of the religious restriction. Not to mention the fact that Queen Victoria's son Arthur - Arthur being the baby's middle name - was named after the Duke of Wellington :lol: :lol: .

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PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 13:41 
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You doubtless knew this, Alison, but apparently Lord Mountbatten was related to the Grand Dukes of Hesse and through them the Landgraves of Hesse-Darmstadt, for all of whom Louis seems to have been a family name, though a few may have been Ludwig...


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PostPosted: 27 Apr 2018, 13:58 
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I highly recommend Hessian Tapestry by David Duff, which goes into the history of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt :D . Prince Philip's doubly descended from them on his mother's side - the Battenbergs (his grandfather's family) were a morganatic branch of the Hesse-Darmstadts (the main branch of which were his grandmother's family). And they were gloriously intermarried with the Romanovs ...

I wish they'd chosen Michael as the third name, though. They've already got Princess Charlotte, so I don't think they needed to get Prince Charles's name in there again, and I feel a bit put out on behalf of the Middletons! I know Charlotte and Elizabeth are Pippa and Kate's middle names, but even so.

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Please do. I like the name Marina as well!


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Just going back to the subject of titles, apparently Buckingham Palace caused a bit of a stir by announcing that "Mrs Michael Tindall" had been safely delivered of a baby girl. It is correct - and, even if it wasn't, it would be if Buckingham Palace said so :lol: - but I can't remember the last time I saw that particular form used. "Dr and Mrs John Maynard", yes, but I can't think when I last saw just "Mrs Husband's Name Surname". I hope Zara had a good laugh about it and wasn't offended :lol: .

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I'm sure Zara knows it's the correct formula. I suppose it's an age thing, but I'm always surprised at how often these things are published with the wrong usage.

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Had I seen "Mrs Zara Tindall" I would have thought "Poor thing, widowed just as she gave birth!" And it surely couldn't say "Mr and Mrs.... have been safely delivered of...."? That would have been quite worrying.

So who is stirred up by it then?

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It's unusual these days, but it is technically correct, and Buckingham Palace could/would hardly use an incorrect form of wording :D .

Apparently some people - probably the same ones! - are also upset by all the comments about how big the baby was, and think that there should be no need to point out that 9lbs 3ozs is "heavy". They've obviously never met either Phil Graves or Joey ...

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 Post subject: Re: Another Royal Baby Names Thread
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Guess if/when Harry and Meghan have a baby the name might be a bit less traditional!
Well, now we've got there, and the bookies' favourites so far seem to be Alexander or Arthur for a boy, and Alice for a girl, AGAIN, do we think this child will receive a more unusual name? Not hugely likely to ever be King or Queen, but I think the naming protocols are still present...


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Frankly, I don't really care what the baby's name will be. I really think that it's up to the parents, though I admit I'm not particularly fond of Ebenezer.

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I wish someone'd go for Victoria. It's a shame that the name seems to've gone out of the British royal family. I know it's Princess Eugenie's middle name, but it hasn't been used for a first name since George V's sister 150 years ago.

I think it depends what they choose. I can't see the Queen agreeing to Apple or Sunday Rose or Peaches, but there might be more scope for a recognised name without royal connections ... but I still think they're more likely to go for something with a royal link. That still gives them plenty to go at, though, especially if they include Prince Philip's side. A lot of Hanoverian names are back in fashion now.

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I agree it's shame about Victoria, but I suppose it might be felt to be rather a lot to live up to for a royal child. Still, it didn't bother the Stuarts about using Elizabeth, did it?

I do like Alice, but I'm betting this child will be another boy, so think it would be a good opportunity to add something fresh to the royal names - nothing outrageous, just something a little different. Thomas, Lucas, Hugo, Oscar or Matthew, for instance?


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I don't care to bet on the sex of a child, but an older royal name would be good. perhaps Alexandra would be a nice touch if it turns out to be a girl.

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PostPosted: 18 Oct 2018, 15:11 
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There's Princess Victoria of Sweden so you'd think she might be asked to be godmother to a little Vicky. In fact there are lots of protestant queens around so a small princess could be Victoria Mary Mette-Marit and have a clutch of regal godparents. Was thinking Netherlands but Q Maxima is RC.
I wish someone would have Adelaide, that's nice and royal and unusual now.

I think it'll be a boy too. It'll have a sensible first name and maybe a bit more unusual for the second/third. I think Philip would be in the running, there hasn't been a little Pip.

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......there hasn't been a little Pip.

And that could be followed by Squeak and Wilfred?

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I'm sure I've read somewhere that Pippa and Kate used to be nicknamed Pip and Squeak :lol: .

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Pippa was known as Pan-face at Marlborough, so I've read.

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