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Author:  Purplejulia [ 23 Feb 2012, 12:20 ]
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Just curious

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Year 12
The Chalet School and Elizabeth
Elizabeth Arnett becomes a responsible prefect, much to Betty Wynne-Davies’ dismay. Betty does her best to get Elizabeth into trouble and make things difficult for her, before Mary Shand, as Headgirl, puts a stop to it. Joey Maynard helps Elizabeth cope with Betty’s behaviour. Kitty Burnett and Jocelyn Redford are Second Prefect and Games Prefect, respectively. The School grows significantly, welcoming a number of new girls, including three Welsh girls, Megan and Marilyn Evans (17 & 14) and Eilunedd Vaughn (12). Miss Dolly Edwards (Junior Maths) and Matron Gould (Junior Matron) return to the School. After an investigation, a temporary maid is caught stealing the girls’ possessions for her brother to sell, and is dismissed. The School holds a Christmas Festival for the end of term, incorporating Nativity Play, Carol Concert and traditional Austrian Christmas festivities (including a Feast for the girls and Staff). A Christmas Tree is erected in Hall, and the local evacuee children receive presents and a party from the girls.


On re-reading 'Robin' [which is one of my favourites :-)] , I've noticed that the business with Betty and Elizabeth has been used here rather than the putative book a year later. I wonder how this might affect any subsequent fill-ins? Did you decided to keep the options open?

Author:  Caroline [ 23 Feb 2012, 13:31 ]
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Well, I wrote Robin a little while after I wrote Missing Terms, so I guess my ideas changed a bit or I needed more storylines for Robin. KB's Peace also has some things in it which in Missing Terms are elsewhere (the Gwensi / Eilunedd row, for instance).

Missing Terms is just my suggestions, after all - really, it's up to individual fill in writers to decide what they want in their books and, if aiming to publish with GGB, to check they aren't overlapping or duplicating something in another fill in book.

Good to hear you like Robin - thanks!

Author:  Purplejulia [ 23 Feb 2012, 14:21 ]
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True... I wish you creative people would get going on the rest of the fill-ins - pretty please? :-)

Author:  KB [ 23 Feb 2012, 21:28 ]
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Caroline wrote:
KB's Peace also has some things in it which in Missing Terms are elsewhere (the Gwensi / Eilunedd row, for instance).


Are you thinking perchance of the scenes in CS Headmistress instead? I didn't use Eilunedd that much in Peace.

Author:  Caroline [ 24 Feb 2012, 11:48 ]
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Probably!! Apologies...

Author:  Purplejulia [ 07 Mar 2012, 22:27 ]
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So which of the Missing Terms will you clever people be tackling next? I wish I had the time, energy and ability to do something like that :-(

Author:  Caroline [ 08 Mar 2012, 09:08 ]
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I think there are various of the terms in the pipeline - KB is writing another, for instance, which in Missing Terms parlance ... is ... erm ... the term between Jo Returns and New, which I called Trouble for the Chalet School.

No idea if she has adopted any of my ideas, though :D

Author:  Purplejulia [ 08 Mar 2012, 10:01 ]
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Caroline wrote:
I think there are various of the terms in the pipeline - KB is writing another, for instance, which in Missing Terms parlance ... is ... erm ... the term between Jo Returns and New, which I called Trouble for the Chalet School.


Scrummy :-)

Author:  KB [ 08 Mar 2012, 11:20 ]
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Caroline wrote:
I think there are various of the terms in the pipeline - KB is writing another, for instance, which in Missing Terms parlance ... is ... erm ... the term between Jo Returns and New, which I called Trouble for the Chalet School.

No idea if she has adopted any of my ideas, though :D


That is indeed the one I'm doing, although the tentative title is The Müllers Come to the Chalet School. I have certainly included mentions of Marie's wedding, the death of Robin's father, and hints about the future of St Scholastika's. There is indeed trouble with the Middles (how did you know, Caroline? :lol: ) and Jo does begin her second book. Miss Annersley will also have her own difficulties.

However I have change a few things. There is a different the Sale theme, although the Sale itself is endangered by an epidemic that is referred to at the beginning of New, and Jo does come down to the school for the repeat performance of the play, as mentioned in Jo Returns.

Any more than that would be telling. :wink:

Author:  Purplejulia [ 08 Mar 2012, 13:33 ]
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KB wrote:
Caroline wrote:
I think there are various of the terms in the pipeline - KB is writing another, for instance, which in Missing Terms parlance ... is ... erm ... the term between Jo Returns and New, which I called Trouble for the Chalet School.

No idea if she has adopted any of my ideas, though :D


That is indeed the one I'm doing, although the tentative title is The Müllers Come to the Chalet School. I have certainly included mentions of Marie's wedding, the death of Robin's father, and hints about the future of St Scholastika's. There is indeed trouble with the Middles (how did you know, Caroline? :lol: ) and Jo does begin her second book. Miss Annersley will also have her own difficulties.

However I have change a few things. There is a different the Sale theme, although the Sale itself is endangered by an epidemic that is referred to at the beginning of New, and Jo does come down to the school for the repeat performance of the play, as mentioned in Jo Returns.

Any more than that would be telling. :wink:


I'm quite interested in the workings of this. Caroline - when you wrote the missing term, was the sale theme a guess, or worked out from future books? I've never been quite sure how much can actually be inferred definitively from future books when some of the timings are quite vague :-)
Either way - looking forwards to it! I've got everything to date, one way or another [ie GGB / hb / pb]; I've even preordered Lavendar... so I'm champing at the bit to get the gaps filled in!!

Author:  Caroline [ 09 Mar 2012, 16:25 ]
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Purplejulia wrote:
I'm quite interested in the workings of this. Caroline - when you wrote the missing term, was the sale theme a guess, or worked out from future books? I've never been quite sure how much can actually be inferred definitively from future books when some of the timings are quite vague


Blimey. Erm, from what I can remember, it was a mix of things. Some entire terms were my invention, some were pieced together from the books either side with a few extra things added to spice things up, some involved known events and deduced / known timelines and some involved known events and suggested timelines.

Given that CS fandom can't even agree how many years are missing between Goes To It and Highland Twins and the Rosalie and Three Go, there is plenty of scope for ... interpretation, shall we say. And enough chronological EBDisms that events can be moved around a bit to ensure every term has some action.

I think most of the middle period sale themes were my suggestions or slight modifications of themes EBD mentions in later prefects discussion - EBD doesn't really mention in detail that many previous, not written about, sales. Other than the Willow Pattern one, in the Howells period, of course.

Author:  Purplejulia [ 09 Mar 2012, 17:03 ]
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So in fact, apart from the Missing Terms you mentioned, we could easily cram a few more in? Brilliant :-) the more the merrier.

Author:  moiser30 [ 21 Mar 2012, 19:58 ]
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Thanks for the information, this is great and an interesting read.

Author:  mell [ 29 Mar 2012, 15:20 ]
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Just read this and love the ideas...looking forward to the next fill in's, and wishing I was able to write them too

Author:  Nightwing [ 12 Apr 2012, 23:48 ]
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I love the idea of Claudia - a new girl winning over the school with her sporting prowess is a GO standard the EBD barely touches, and having an older girl who doesn't fit in but comes to like the school anyway would be a nice contrast to some of the "older girl" stories we get later in the series. Crossing my fingers someone writes this one... :D

Author:  Caroline [ 13 Apr 2012, 11:15 ]
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Glad you like it - that was, I think, the most made-up-by-me of all the terms, as I'd run out of EBD-material by that point.

EBD does older girls who don't fit in for various reasons (Naomi, Evelyn, Marilyn Evans, even Annis, I suppose, and there must be others) but it's usually because there is something "wrong" with them and they need to change in order to resolve the story. I just fancied the idea of an older girl who was a misfit for entirely other reasons, and the outcome was more that the school needed to learn to understand and accept her, rather than the other way round.

In a way, I suppose she has similarities with Jane Carew, in the later books.

Author:  Chloe [ 23 Sep 2019, 23:59 ]
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Just wondering Caroline how you decided on two years between Rosalie and Three Go? Going on the triplets ages I calculate it as three years. I know EBDisms make calculating the gaps, ages etc difficult to say the least.

Author:  Caroline [ 24 Sep 2019, 22:06 ]
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Its all rather a long time ago now, but I expect either because the ages of quite a lot of other characters don’t obviously change by as much as three years, or because the triplets age changing by three years seemed to be an EBDism. I’m also never sure about using Rosalie and Tom Tackles as reference points, as they were written out of sequence.

I have a massive spreadsheet (started along time ago and then developed further when writing my books) tracking the ages of a whole host of key characters across the whole 58 books, so not just ‘either side of’ each of the gaps - Madge, Joey, Grizel, Juliet, the triplets, Mary Lou, Bride and Peggy, Jem and Jack, Robin and Daisy, Amy, Corney, Peggy Burnett, etc.

So, I likely will have used the relative age changes of a lot of different characters, and more reference points than Rosalie and Three Go, and decided that, on the balance of probabilities, it was only two years.

Just my opinion, though :D

Author:  Chloe [ 24 Sep 2019, 22:29 ]
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Thank you Caroline. For Gay Lambert still to be in school if there were three years between Rosalie and Three Go she would be about 20 leaving school so I can understand the logic of there only being a two year gap.

Author:  KB [ 25 Sep 2019, 07:02 ]
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Chloe wrote:
Thank you Caroline. For Gay Lambert still to be in school if there were three years between Rosalie and Three Go she would be about 20 leaving school so I can understand the logic of there only being a two year gap.


There are plenty of characters that can be used to justify either a one-, two- or three-year gap between those books. Amy Stevens, for instance, is something like 23 and still at school with only a two-year gap.

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