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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2013, 19:50 
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Hello everyone!

I have persuaded my husband that the Achensee would be the perfect place to visit this summer, so 25 or so years after reading the Chalet School for the first time I am on my way! I am completely bewildered by the amount of accomodation offered, and as I am arranging it do not want to be blamed for finding anywhere substandard!

There will be 3 of us going, and we are looking for an apartment with two bedrooms. Would rather stay in either Pertisau or Maurach and not Achenkirch, as I have always dreamed of staying close to the lake. Can anyone recommend any nice apartments that they have stayed in personally? I would really appreciate it!

I am having SO much fun figuring out places to visit, it looks like a stunning area with loads to do.

So excited about my Chalet School Pilgrimage!

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When we were there last year, some of our group stayed in the Klara apartments at the Hotel Rosenegger in Pertisau and were very pleased with them. http://rosenegger.at/pertisau_achensee/ ... haus_klara


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Hi Isabelle. Welcome to the CBB!

If you look at the thread immediately above yours (it's called Achensee (Tiernsee) Information) you'll find lots of information and suggestions. Obviously feel free to ask more questions, either in this thread or on that one.

I loved the Achensee and am hoping to go back. I'm sure you'll have an amazing holiday.

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For our first trip (2006?) we stayed in the Hotel Post. I wasn't that keen on it as it is now a very modern hotel catering for "spa breaks" so they have a gym, sauna and so on.

The second time (2008?) we went it was ski season and we stayed in an apartment owned by one of the ski schools in Pertisau. I can't remember the name, but it was cheap and really suited us having 4 single beds, a small kitchen, and a cooked breakfast on a tray brought to the room each morning.


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We stayed in the Post for our honeymoon in 2008 and loved it. It is very modern, but we really enjoyed having free access to the swimming pool, sauna etc. Mind you, it might have been partly the novelty - we don't usually stay in that sort of place!

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We've stayed at the Knappenhof a couple of times. It's not central Pertisau, but it is close to the lake! The owners speak a little English.

I've also spent a night B&B at the Ferienhaus Unger, but they also have apartments. They are practically opposite the Tourist Information in Pertisau.

Next December we're spending a week at the Gästehaus Alpina in Maurach for my daughter's birthday. They seem to have been very helpful, so I hope it's all right.

Don't forget that if you're arriving by train at Jenbach, you'll get a free bus-ride up to your accommodation, if you wave an appropriate piece of paper at the bus driver. After that your guest-card will give you free bus rides between Achenkirch, Eben, Maurach and Pertisau, but you'll have to pay if you want to go back to Jenbach before the end of your holiday.

I hope you have a lovely time - my husband always enjoys visiting the Achensee, even though he's yet to be persuaded to read any of the books!

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When we were there last year, some of our group stayed in the Klara apartments at the Hotel Rosenegger in Pertisau and were very pleased with them. http://rosenegger.at/pertisau_achensee/ ... haus_klara


Ah, yes, it was the Klara apartments where we stayed!


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Joey wrote:
We stayed in the Post for our honeymoon in 2008 and loved it.


Oh, there's nothing wrong with the hotel, its very nice. First of all I'm an old romantic and I prefer older, traditional accommodation. (e.g. recently when on a business trip in Switzerland, I booked a chalet in the mountains rather than a hotel in town. :mrgreen:)

ETA: Also, I'm more of an outdoors person - I'd rather be out rambling and climbing than sat in a sauna or jacuzzi.


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Aha, thanks everyone!

I had looked at the stickies, but was wondering if anyone had more up to date info. After looking at all your suggestions, I have picked the Ferienhaus Unger, so thank you! Hubby thought that it would be very "resorty" by the lake in mid summer, but I said that it was MY dream holiday and I wanted to stay by the lake, LOL!

Can't wait, already have a few pages of notebook full of suggestions from the threads on here.

Thank you all so much!

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We stayed in the hotel Tyrol in Pertisau :) I loved my week there and will go back some day!

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I forget the name of the place we stayed - a guesthouse by the lake - but they had apartments as well as B&B.

We ate dinner at the Post our first night there, and they were fantastic - delicious food, and very polite and helpful waiter!


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IsabelleJ wrote:
Hubby thought that it would be very "resorty" by the lake in mid summer, but I said that it was MY dream holiday and I wanted to stay by the lake, LOL!


We always stay at Appartments Seerose, just up from the Hotel Wiesenhof. They've always been very reasonable, considering they're less than five minutes from the lakeside, and have ducky apartments. (and by reasonable, I mean very much so, compared to most of the other apartments in Pertisau, some of which are much further back.)

We normally go early mid July (have a habit of arriving on the last day of school there) and the weekends are the busiest/most touristy - you'll find a lot of folks come up from the Innthal for the day/weekend. But even then, it's not as bad as Llandudno or Hastings, in my opinion, and definitely not in the Blackpool bracket. And you can escape people very easily if you're walkers.

Enjoy it! (but be careful... we went first in 2010, swearing it was a once in a lifetime thing. We've been back every year since, and even this year, when we were supposed to NOT be going because of a family holiday, we have found ourselves booking a long weekend there at the end of the month... Just couldn't not spend at least some time there in the year!!!)

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Enjoy it! (but be careful... we went first in 2010, swearing it was a once in a lifetime thing. We've been back every year since, and even this year, when we were supposed to NOT be going because of a family holiday, we have found ourselves booking a long weekend there at the end of the month... Just couldn't not spend at least some time there in the year!!!)


*lol* So true! I'm planning my third trip at the moment, and coming from Australia, that's quite a hike!

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After reading the Chalet School books for more than 30 years, I am finally going to the Achensee :D I am spending five days there in mid June, staying at the Garni Alpenrose and am utterly excited.

I turned 40 last year & had been planning for a while how I celebrate. It came down to seeing my brother (hasn't been back to Aus for nearly seven years) & going to Chalet School Lands. So with Europe at its most beautiful in spring, I am fulfilling both my wishes whilst still 40 and am absolutely over the moon!

Re knowledge of around the Achensee, I have both the 1997 NCC Achensee booklet by Joy Wotton & the 2001 FOCS booklet by Sally Dore. Obviously locations etc won't change, but is there anything a solo gal might need to know that may have changed since these booklets were published? The Achensee thread has already been very helpful-sorted the hotel out though its links.

KB, I might have some questions for you!

BTW, is anyone else heading out mid June as it would be great to meet another CS girl there?

Gotta go & practise my German now...hmmm

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Re knowledge of around the Achensee, I have both the 1997 NCC Achensee booklet by Joy Wotton & the 2001 FOCS booklet by Sally Dore. Obviously locations etc won't change, but is there anything a solo gal might need to know that may have changed since these booklets were published? The Achensee thread has already been very helpful-sorted the hotel out though its links.


Some of the things have changed. In fact, I wrote the following after my 2006 trip - but be warned that some of these might have changed now! *lol*

Before you go
1) The Information Office at Pertisau now contains the Bücherei and includes some of the early (paperback) Chalet School books. There is a 1 Euro cost for borrowing books from this library.

4) The most recent Lonely Planet Austria makes no mention of the Chalet School books, even in its literature sections.

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4) Even the very posh hotels don’t seem to have kettles. (They do have hair dryers and some will let you borrow minibars if you ask nicely.)

15) I was reliably informed that snow in June in the Achensee has happened several times in the last few years. A warm jumper is vital, as even on sunny days, the wind can be quite cold.

General Tips about Austria
5) The toilet at Jenbach railway station requires a 50 cent piece, as do others at Innsbruck railway station, etc.

Chalet Connections in Pertisau
2) The plaque is now on a wall inside the Information Office in Pertisau, along with the books that were formerly in the Bücherei.

The Achensee and Pertisau – Useful Information
5) Often when buying postcards, the shop assistant will ask you want stamps (briefmarken).

6) The Spar supermarkets, unlike many others in Austria, are open on Sunday mornings as well as until 5pm on Saturdays.

23) The Tourist Office not only does NOT have a copy of the Achensee handbook, they seem never to have heard of it! Having shown mine off, they may now know what you’re talking about, but I wouldn’t count on it!

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The walks to various places around the lake, particularly up the mountains, may be unexpectedly blocked by solid lumps of icy snow, particularly around the time of the pre-tourist season (Vorsaison). It is possible to cross these, but you would want excellent shoes, an alpenstock and a good friend to run for help if you slip into the lake! If you would like to know how I know this, I suggest reading this.

5) The Dorf Express does not go up the Feilalm, even by request and in the morning.

6) It is possible to walk up to the ‘Sonnalpe’, beginning from Maurach. However, it is a very long, hard climb (min 4 hours) and the way may be unexpectedly blocked by the result of icy snow left over from winter that is dangerous (and probably suicidal) to try and cross, particularly if you aren’t wearing hiking books, don’t have an alpenstock and are on your own. The Fußweg (footpath) from the Dalfaz alm may be somewhat broken up, particularly near the Dalfaz waterfall.

14) The Nachtmusik cruises don’t generally begin until June.

Expeditions Further Afield
1) There is one tour daily of Hall’s mock-up of a salt mine and in 2006 it took place at 11.45am, immediately after a city tour that begin at 10.30am. However, a very realistic imitation of the Maynard/Richardson’s trip to Hall can be found at the Salzbergwerk Berchtesgaden. This is about a 45 min. trip on the train from Berchtesgaden and includes illuminated underground caves, a trip on a train and a glorious slide!

2) The Lonely Planet book suggests catching a bus from Innsbruck to the Swarovski mines, but this is an additional cost (15 Euro in 2006) and, as the buses only run every two hours, is not very convenient! Far better to get transport from Wattens, the closest town, which can be reached by train from Jenbach in about 20 mins. If you get a daily pass for public transport, this trip to the Swarovski Crystal Worlds from Wattens is included in the cost. The special buses from Innsbruck cost extra.

3) The Stubai glacier should be visited in the morning, as it is about 1.5 hours bus trip from Innsbruck or 2 hours by train from Jenbach and any visitors arriving after 3.30pm will not be allowed to go on to the glacier itself.

5) An excellent trip from Salzburg is to Oberndorf, where one can visit the Stille-Nacht-Kapelle (Silent Night Chapel), mentioned in A Future Chalet School Girl. Oberndorf is reached by the local train from Salzburg and the Chapel is about 20-30 mins walk away. (Most locals can give directions, as signs are severely lacking.)

10) The Silver Mines at Schwaz are very good indeed, but everything is on a very small scale. The Salzbergwerk at Berchtesgaden give a much better picture of things (see point 1).

12) To see the other side of the Nazi regime, while in Berchtesgaden, there is an excellent four-hour tour of the Obersalzberg where Hitler had his Berghof and Eagle’s Nest. If the weather is clear, the views are spectacular. The tours (in English) begin at 1.30pm from the Information Office in Berchestagen, but bookings are essential. It is possible to visit both the Obersalzberg and also the salt mines in one day, but if coming from Salzberg, it means arriving very early in Berchtesgaden (the salt mines require at least two+ hours) and leaving by the 18.06 train at the earliest.

Transport
1) Buses run every hour from Pertisau to Jenbach, although the 10.10am, as does the 8.10am bus seems to be a bit iffy. The Achensee Pass includes free travel around the lake, but only to Maurach. It is therefore necessary to buy tickets from Maurach to Jenbach. Timetables for buses can be found here but only in German.

2) If you are travelling beyond Jenbach on the normal trains (not the Zillerthalbahn) you can buy a day ticket (Tagesticket) on the bus for your destination that will give you absolute freedom. You can change between train and bus and get on and off as much as you like.

3) The last bus from Jenbach now leaves the station at 19.05 (the one before that is the 17.52 and is the last one on weekends and non-work days). Taxis to Pertisau cost about 25 Euro.

7) Both the Achenseebahn and the little white steamer begin a week before the Achensee Erlebniskarte (and thus the Rofan-Seilbahn up to the ‘Sonnalpe’ and the Karwendelbahn up the Bärenbadalm) start for the season. The open carriages are NOT pleasant places to sit in wet/cold weather.

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1) If you are staying at the Hotel Post (which is really good value), the half-pension, which gives you both breakfast and dinner, has a delicious vegetarian option every night. They have a public restaurant so you can always eat there.

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Thank you for these, KB! We're going back to Austria this year (to Pertisau, Salzberg and Zell-am-Zee) and this has given me some ideas for day trips!

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Thanks KB, that's all really useful. Think I might go print it out so I've got it with me.

I, like redbanksia, decided to treat myself to a trip to Pertisau for my 40th and I'm heading there in 2 weeks time! :D

Am excited but rather nervous too as this is the first holiday I've done on my own. I booked with Inghams though so that I don't have to worry about transfers etc. and will be staying at the Hotel Pflander once I'm there.

If anyone is in the region between 25th May & 1st June and would be interested in meeting up, please PM me! I'd love to meet other fellow CBBers!

Happy holidays to all that are intending on making the trip this year - first timers and old timers! :wink:

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I've gone with Inghams before. They have loads of excursions/events that you can sign up for - like day trips to Innsbruck. It means no worrying about public transport and transfers, even though that can be fun too.


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Thanks KB, that's all really useful. Think I might go print it out so I've got it with me.

I, like redbanksia, decided to treat myself to a trip to Pertisau for my 40th and I'm heading there in 2 weeks time! :D

Am excited but rather nervous too as this is the first holiday I've done on my own. I booked with Inghams though so that I don't have to worry about transfers etc. and will be staying at the Hotel Pflander once I'm there.

If anyone is in the region between 25th May & 1st June and would be interested in meeting up, please PM me! I'd love to meet other fellow CBBers!

Happy holidays to all that are intending on making the trip this year - first timers and old timers! :wink:

Julie


PMing you now Julie - we're there between 24th - 28th.

Following on KB's points: The route from Buchau to the Dalfazalm (minus avalanches!!!) took us about 3hrs the other year, although we were both dosed with the cold. (yes, yes we are insane.) I think we might have started at a different point though.

It is possible to hire a pair of guides (who look like Herr Mensch and Herr Marani, in full regalia, no kidding.) to take you up the Mondscheinspitze (Tiernjoch) - although I imagine to do so requires German and I've no idea *where* you go to do this. It is a do-able climb during the summer if, and only if, you are experienced at hill walking and have a very good head for heights. Also, EBD wasn't messing around when it came to descriptions of mist coming down. We know, we'd just got past Grizel's ledge, coming down, when the mist came in like a blanket. (We'd seen it coming from the peak, but there's only so fast you can move down that mountain!!) The daft thing is, one day, I want to do it again! (insane.)

If it's raining steadily, do not think "it'll fall off later, we might as well climb x, y or z." (We got to 20 minutes off the peak of the Seebergspitze before deciding that discretion was the better part of valour, and that it was time to turn round.)

The route from the Dalfazalm, behind the Klobenjoch, that comes down at Seehof - the nearest you'll get to the route taken in Joey and Co, in the mist, is well worth doing. It puts me in mind of Blyton's Valley of Adventure, so utterly isolated, with a few ruined cottages. It's worth taking a full day for that, though, so that you don't have to run the last mile to catch the boat...

The young lad (brown floppy hair, must be about 14 now) in the Spar speaks pretty good English.

The path from Gaisalm back to Pertisau is in the shade come evening. I only mention this because a couple of years ago, we met an Adder crossing it. It scuttled almost as fast as we did.

The slopes of the Bärenbad are host to deer, who come down to graze on warm summer evenings.

The paths behind the golf club/in front of the Dristenkopf (ie, the Dristenthal) are also good for evening walks - we have seen deer, red squirrels, and a beautiful large hare, on different occasions. They are also quiet, especially at that time of day.

The hike to the Plumsjoch (en route to Mondy) isn't too bad - and three or four mountain ponies, looking like something out of Lord of the Rings, live up there - they're very friendly.

As are the sheep who live on the Dalfaz-Rotspitze range.

But the Ibex who reside on the Seebergspitze are not. (We've also seen them from a distance on the path from Maurach to the Dalfazalm.)

The MPreise in Maurach is far better value than Spar on most things.

You also need 50 cents for the Seespitz toilets. In Innsbruck Hauptbahnhof, and, indeed, in Jenbach, it is the done thing to hold the door for the next person coming along. This does NOT work in Seespitz. The door *knows* and it will lock you in. Yes, I do know from experience.

On that lovely note...it's now five to midnight! ;)

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Vey thorough - and interesting!!

I would add that the weather can be really unpredictable, even in summer. We went in late May and the day we arrived it was scorching sunshine and some braves souls were swimming in the lake, in bikinis.

Two days later it snowed. Heavily! With howling winds and horizontal snow!

(Weirdly, it kind of made the trip - we only went for a week and we got to see "The Tiernsee" in winter and summer....)


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