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PostPosted: 02 Jul 2015, 05:07 
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I had assumed that the Collins Editions were identical to the Armada paperbacks until someone mentioned elsewhere that there was some "updating".

So are they Armada updated? The originals differently cut to the Armada? Something else?


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PostPosted: 02 Jul 2015, 12:36 
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Some of the Armada paperbacks were considerably abridged compared to the Chambers hardbacks (Collins wasn't the hardback publisher). This list from FOCS shows the extent of the cuts. In general, the later Armada titles (from the late 1980s) were uncut although you'll see that some of the earlier titles were too.

Those which are described as having "very major" cuts include:

Head Girl - one chapter missing and other large cuts including our introduction to The Stuffer and Maria.
Exile - one chapter missing after the group arrive in Switzerland and numerous other cuts.
Three Go - a chapter and a whole storyline missing (Gillian Linton meets her future husband).
Coming of Age - a chapter missing which includes Miss Bubb

I can't remember the details of the other books in this category and no longer have the Armada versions but I'm someone will be able to help.

I'd describe Highland Twins as very major too as it has at least a chapter missing.

In terms of "updating", later Armada versions take out all references to staff smoking and the forbidden book Jennifer reads in Wrong is changed from Gone with the Wind to Forever Amber.


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 Post subject: Re: Collins Editions
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2015, 14:07 
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Thank you JB.

I am aware of the Armada cuts and that information. What I am trying to find out is whether the Collins cuts differ from the Armada cuts.

I suppose. if I were truly obsessive. I'd buy the Collins anyway but....I only really want them if they are "different" (and really, really cheap)

Edit in case of confusion:: I have all the Armadas except for three. But I have those three in hardback and GBB. I have 40-odd hardbacks. This really is an OCD book enquiry - although, if the information is there the new CS Wiki woud benefit!


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I'm not sure about the Collins editions, but it's certainly true to say that one Armada edition isn't the same as another Armada edition - I once wrote a comparison for FOCS on three different versions of Island as a paperback, and they are different frm each other - mainly in the sense of individual word changes / updatings rather than different cuts.

And this is more the case for the paperbacks which were published earlier, and so have gone through more editions.

So, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the Collins editions are "different" from a particular Armada edition.


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What did Collins publish then? I am confused....

I thought they were responsible for the Seagull chops of EJO but didn't know they had been involved with EBD too.

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cestina wrote:
What did Collins publish then? I am confused....

I thought they were responsible for the Seagull chops of EJO but didn't know they had been involved with EBD too.


Collins published the last hurrah of the abridged paperbacks from 1995 until about 2002, if I recall correctly. They were shiny and had 'The school with a difference' on the covers. You sometimes still see them in The Works shops.


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Aha. Thanks Mia...

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 Post subject: Re: Collins Editions
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re: the different editions - can it be assumed that all the paperbacks were part of series' which had abridged versions, and all the hardbacks are the original editions? Or are there abridged hardbacks, and non abridged paperbacks too? (of the ones which were abridged in later paperbacks I mean) I would quite like to have a set of original hardbacks and a set of "reading copies" in paperback (a distant dream, if I win the lottery...haha) but can I buy any of the hardbacks assuming they're the originals? I would also quite like to get all the 1990s paperbacks (The 4th edition here: http://www.chaletschool.org.uk/chalet-s ... llins.html) as they're what I spent all my pocket money in WHSmiths on back then, but did they publish the whole series like that?

Hmm not sure if that sounds really confused now...hope it makes sense, haha.


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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2015, 23:13 
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The GGB paperbacks are unabridged.

Some of the Armada (usually the ones that were published for the first time later on - ie the 1990s)are uncut. Most of the ones that were first published in paperback earlier are cut to some extent - some are more cut than others. There is a list of the cuts on the NCC Website. http://ww2.newchaletclub.co.uk/elinor-m ... r-s-works/

The hardbacks are uncut. There are no abridged hardbacks.

If you want softback reading copies then the GGB are the best option (and usually have some extras).


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[quote="Victoria"]The hardbacks are uncut. There are no abridged hardbacks.
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...unless there are multiple titles in the one edition. There is a hardback of the first three titles in one volume and that is made up of the abridged editions. Just a warning.

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And not an abridgement, but there's the case of the paperback half of Genius that's called Chalet School Fete, which contains an extra chapter written specially for it and therefore not found in the hardbacks.


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