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PostPosted: 08 Aug 2011, 16:58 
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Apparently my dad's copies for the shop have arrived. Mine... still waiting. :shock:

Please, don't stint on your opinions, both good and bad - after several years of editing with Ruth, never mind the PhD grind, I'm fairly thick skinned when it comes to crit on my writing.

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PostPosted: 08 Aug 2011, 17:20 
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I don't normally read fill-ins, Lisa (I read Visitors, though, a long time ago), but I wish you well with this one.

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PostPosted: 08 Aug 2011, 21:35 
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My copy arrived today. I planned to save it for my holiday later this week but I have not been patient enough. I am enjoying it so far.

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PostPosted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:12 
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Lisa_T wrote:
Please, don't stint on your opinions, both good and bad - after several years of editing with Ruth, never mind the PhD grind, I'm fairly thick skinned when it comes to crit on my writing.


*lol* Yes, working with Ruth does prepare one for the honesty of fellow fans, doesn't it? :wink:

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Absolutely! :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: 09 Aug 2011, 11:19 
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Mine arrived yesterday and I did have a quick skim through and thought it looked great! Hoping I can persuade my 3 year old to play with her dolls on our 5 hour train journey today so i can read it then!!!!


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I'm still waiting for mine, and I've already had my post today so will have to wait 'til at least tomorrow :(


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Mine has arrived! Little Dorrit will have to wait for a while.

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Almost finished mine. Really enjoyed it kept forgetting it wasn't writen by EBD.


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Mine arrived the day before yesterday - it looks fab, Lisa, you'll be thrilled when you get yours. I still have four copies of Juliet and four of Deira sat on my bookshelfs, and I get a definite glow of pride every time I see them.

I'm about half way through now (pesky work) and am really enjoying it. Constructive criticism - Annis's moodswings are perhaps a little too frequent for my taste. But I like her "voice", you've got Bride and Tom and Co. just right and strangely you've given me a much more vivid picture of Plas Howell than EBD ever managed.

I'm currently in the midst of the septic throat epidemic and I think that's really well written - a nice steady build up to the fear around Margot, for instance. I think that kind of plot line (what I call the iconic plot lines - the ones EBD mentions a lot, even that they have happened off stage - Marilyn Evans, the drains going bad, Gwensi's row with Eilunedd Vaughn etc.) are so very hard to get right, becuase every CS fan has their own idea of how they came about and how they played out. In fact, I've always avoided the terms with those plot lines - too much pressure!!


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 Post subject: Re: Difficult Term is out!
PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 14:16 
Oh - stop! How can I wait? I'm really looking forward to reading about all those previously-offstage happenings! I'm also turning into that correspondance of Joey's who uses a lot of exclamation marks and emphasis.


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Mine arrived the day before yesterday - it looks fab, Lisa, you'll be thrilled when you get yours. I still have four copies of Juliet and four of Deira sat on my bookshelfs, and I get a definite glow of pride every time I see them.

I'm about half way through now (pesky work) and am really enjoying it. Constructive criticism - Annis's moodswings are perhaps a little too frequent for my taste. But I like her "voice", you've got Bride and Tom and Co. just right and strangely you've given me a much more vivid picture of Plas Howell than EBD ever managed.

I'm currently in the midst of the septic throat epidemic and I think that's really well written - a nice steady build up to the fear around Margot, for instance. I think that kind of plot line (what I call the iconic plot lines - the ones EBD mentions a lot, even that they have happened off stage - Marilyn Evans, the drains going bad, Gwensi's row with Eilunedd Vaughn etc.) are so very hard to get right, becuase every CS fan has their own idea of how they came about and how they played out. In fact, I've always avoided the terms with those plot lines - too much pressure!!


My dad's lot has arrived, although mine have fallen victim to the evil 'sorry you were out' card. They do look great, and I skimmed through myself yesterday. I think in retrospect I generally prefer the scenes that are not Annis-centric - the staff scenes, the middles, the general pan-school (for want of a better phrase) episodes... I think those work better than pure Annis.

I had to work to get Plas Howell. I couldn't visualise it when I started, and that became a problem because I started imagining everything taking place in Arlington Manor at Mary Hare. As I said in the afterword, that worked to a point - but only a point, so for my own satisfaction I had to try to imagine PH very, very clearly. Didn't want to go overboard with it though, so I'm glad it worked for you! I'm also thrilled that the Margot/illness storyline has worked for you thus far - the Margot parts in particular were rewritten quite extensively. I thought it was important, though, that we actually see something of Margot's frailty throughout that term - as you say, it's an 'iconic' plotline, and I think EBD missed a trick in not going into it herself. I think it's much easier to have sympathy of Theodora-era Margot if you've actually seen how life was for her pre-Canada.

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Right, that's it! Forget waiting until payday ... I'm ordering now :P

Can't wait :D

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PostPosted: 10 Aug 2011, 19:26 
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Could you order from my dad, if you haven't placed an order already? You can do it through Amazon - he's the only one with a copy up.

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Mine arrived today! I've only read the foreword so far, but am looking forward to getting on to the rest.... :D :D :D

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Yay!

I sold a copy today to meerium when she popped in to the shop. Weird, weird experience....

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Lisa_T wrote:
My dad's lot has arrived, although mine have fallen victim to the evil 'sorry you were out' card. They do look great, and I skimmed through myself yesterday. I think in retrospect I generally prefer the scenes that are not Annis-centric - the staff scenes, the middles, the general pan-school (for want of a better phrase) episodes... I think those work better than pure Annis.


I really like Annis at home with Mrs Bain (although I certainly agree with the comments in your fore- and afterword about the challenge of making the audience have sympathy for her in comparison to her presentation in Island), but I feel like the strongest part of the book came with your scenes at the Maynard home and when you were focusing on the Juniors (you do a wonderful job with the Maynard triplets, Margot in particular). That said, you had a great deal of difficulty with being unable to 'resolve' Annis, much like others have had with Grizel and Betty. I think the resolution you came to in the end was a very good one.

I'll send you a really detailed review of my thoughts later once I have reread Island. :wink:

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I tried so hard to resist buying this - I have an MA dissertation to write and time is rapidly running out! - but I just caved in and ordered it from a seller on Amazon who I presume is your father (as the book is signed by the author, no less!) Oh well, as long as I don't include it in my bibliography by accident...


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It is indeed my father! We'll get it in the post to you asap. :D

*still snickering at the thought of DT making it into your biblio*

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I've read it and Lisa it was great, now I'll have to read the The Chalet School and the Island and then I must do what I've been playing all year reading them all in order, though there will be gaps where I haven't got the book yet.


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