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 Post subject: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 07 Sep 2011, 20:02 
I've just been reading Tuttsclump's revamped chaletschool.co site. From there:

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The Times in writing about Elinor wrote

"The world of juvenile literature is made poorer by her death," said the Times, instancing her "huge readership from all over the world - not only of children but adults", her realism, her "taut style and breathless speed", and her invention of the Sixties 'buzz-word', 'fabulous'.


This was her obituary in The Times. I didn't know that!!!!!


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PostPosted: 07 Sep 2011, 20:06 
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Does that mean I have Elinor to thank for my friend who says "fabby"?


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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 07 Sep 2011, 20:21 
Of course!!!! We must acknowledge Elinor every time we use the word from now on.


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PostPosted: 07 Sep 2011, 20:38 
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So EBD spawned the Thunderbirds catchphrase... :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2011, 00:37 
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Interestingly, EBD uses the word fabulous in the very first book of the series, but not as an exclamation:

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Joey looked thoughtfully at the coloured illustration which depicted a white-haired headmistress receiving a magnificent chain and pendant from a Head Girl of fabulous beauty; while a small child nearby looked almost swamped by a huge bouquet of lilies and roses.


For most of its uses, this is the way fabulous appears. It's only in Ruey that it gets used as an exclamation for the first time, ironically by then-bad girl Francie:

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“Oh, I do hope it happens like that!” she thought fervently as the gong sounded and they formed into line, ready to march off to the Speisesaal. “It would be too—too fabulous if it did: but what a difference it would make to my last years at school!”


Len then uses it when they are looking for new adjectives:

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“Isn’t it fabulous?” Len Maynard observed to her own crowd as they looked round.


And it goes on from there...

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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 09 Sep 2011, 09:08 
It's interesting, actually - one tends not to think of 'fabulous' in relation to 'fable' and 'fabled', but of course that's very much how EBD uses it before it becomes an exclamation of pleasure/surprise/approval!


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PostPosted: 10 Sep 2011, 11:30 
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Just read it all and it was such a lovely read.


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PostPosted: 10 Sep 2011, 22:58 
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Gosh, I say 'fabulous' all the time. I didn't know I had our one and only EBD to thank for it. I will think of her when I use it, and will probably smile, whereby my friends will think I am mad.


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PostPosted: 10 Sep 2011, 23:20 
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Cosimo's Jackal wrote:
It's interesting, actually - one tends not to think of 'fabulous' in relation to 'fable' and 'fabled', but of course that's very much how EBD uses it before it becomes an exclamation of pleasure/surprise/approval!

I think it's the exclamation that would be attributed to EBD. The word has used with the "fabled" connotation for ages ̶ by Shakespeare, for instance, though the first time I remember reading it would count as GO. It's part of the name assigned the villain in The Curious Quest, Virginia Fairfax, 1934.
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Patsy smiled. "A griffin isn't a real animal. It's a make-believe ̶ a fabulous animal. It's supposed to have the body and legs of a lion, and the wings and beak of an eagle, and big, listening ears."
"That's he, all over, except the wings," grinned Hilda. "I hereby name him the Fabulous Animal."

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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2011, 15:43 
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There is so much I didn't know about Elinor M. Brent-Dyer.


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PostPosted: 02 Oct 2011, 19:44 
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Katherine! This is what I was talking about the other day.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 11:41 
In Nan, Elinor describes the cocker 'babies' as 'fubsy'. I have never heard this word before and have no idea what it means.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 14:59 
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julieanne1811 wrote:
In Nan, Elinor describes the cocker 'babies' as 'fubsy'. I have never heard this word before and have no idea what it means.

You'll find it in one of the songs in Kipling's The Jungle Book - I think this might actually be one of the first poems I learned by heart (needless to say I didn't have a clue what most of it meant but I've just realised that its rhythms are very deep in my soul):


His spots are the joy of the Leopard: his horns are the Buffalo's pride,
Be clean, for the strength of the hunter is known by the gloss of his hide.
If ye find that the bullock can toss you, or the heavy-browed Sambhur can gore;
Ye need not stop work to inform us. We knew it ten seasons before.
Oppress not the cubs of the stranger, but hail them as Sister and Brother,
For though they are little and fubsy it may be the Bear is their mother.
"There is none like to me! " says the Cub in the pride of his earliest kill;
But the Jungle is large and the Cub he is small - Let him think and be still.

Kaa's Hunting.

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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 15:02 
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I always thought that fubsy meant chubby and fat but I may be completely wrong!

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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 17:32 
That is so interesting - thank you. I shall now make it my task to use it in normal conversation tomorrow.


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 21:37 
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KathrynW wrote:
I always thought that fubsy meant chubby and fat but I may be completely wrong!


According to an online dictionary, fubsy means:

Archaic or dialect short and stout; squat
[from obsolete fubs plump person]

So you are right, Kathryn. It's new to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 21:58 
In my self-appointed task to use fubsy tomorrow, I shall take care not to say to my interviewer, ' It's nice to meet you. You look very fubsy!' Or anything like that.

Or, shall I? Make it sound like a compliment?


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 22:32 
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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 24 Nov 2011, 23:36 
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That would be a great name for a teddy: Fubsy bear.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabulous!
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2012, 12:00 
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cal562301 wrote:
KathrynW wrote:
I always thought that fubsy meant chubby and fat but I may be completely wrong!


According to an online dictionary, fubsy means:

Archaic or dialect short and stout; squat
[from obsolete fubs plump person]

So you are right, Kathryn. It's new to me.



Elinor also uses "Sonsy" to describe Sophie Hemel (in either the first book where Sophie appears or later in 'Reunion') which is a similar word to 'fubsy'

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sonsy, sonsie [ˈsɒnsɪ]
adj -sier, -siest Scot, Irish, and English dialect
1. plump; buxom; comely
2. cheerful; good-natured
3. lucky

- from the freedictionary website.

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