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 Post subject: Mother an EBD fan?
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2016, 21:49 
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There was an Arminel on that game show on BBC this afternoon (forget it's name). Wonder if her mother read Chudleigh Hold when she was young?

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Intriguing idea! Unless she's a member of the Wodehouse family, who sometimes have Armine (another form) among their names - though if it was Pointless you don't normally get contestants' surnames, anyway.


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The programme is on BBC One and it's called Think Tank. I haven't watched it but I caught her name when "passing through" (i.e. changing channels) and wondered the very same thing.
I think she is called Arminel Fennelly.


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A quick Google search shows only one person by that name in the UK and, interestingly (although it might not be the same person) they have a previous or other surname which is Czech/Slovak in origin. That would fit better (or perhaps more usually) with the first name although it still doesn't rule out a parent who read EBD.


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I don't think Arminel is a Czech name....it's certainly not one I have ever come across there.

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Anglo-French in origin, it would seem. Withycomb (Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names) commented that Arminel "(f)...looks like a diminutive of Armine, the English f form of French Armand, German and Dutch Herman". She also commented that it was a rare name and was mainly found in Devon, whereas the male form Armin had survived mainly in Norfolk.


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Anglo-French in origin, it would seem. Withycomb (Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names) commented that Arminel "(f)...looks like a diminutive of Armine, the English f form of French Armand, German and Dutch Herman". She also commented that it was a rare name and was mainly found in Devon, whereas the male form Armin had survived mainly in Norfolk.

Yes that seems much more likely. Also, there are very few Czech female names, other than ones of foreign origin, that do not end in "a".....In fact I am racking my brains to think of any amongst my friends there and can only come up with one - Miriam.

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The 1939 Register has 53 girls and women called Arminel or variants such as Armine or Armina. Only eight are actual Arminels. I wonder where EBD came across the name?

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Just Googled it out of curiosity, and came across a 1907 novel called "Arminel of the West". Young man, sent to stay with a formidable aunt in Devon to recover from an illness, meets Arminel, a young woman who is well-educated but sadly minus a private income or other attributes likely to meet with the aunt's approval ... you get the idea :lol:.

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Found it on archive.org and downloaded it!

I suppose that explains where EBD came across the name. And the author must have been a Cornishman, judging by his name, John Trevena, so if Arminel is an old West Country name, I suppose he'd heard of it.

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It's quite interesting thinking about where she got the names from :lol:. Grizel Cochrane was a real 17th century person with a poem about her. Madge and Joey may well have been named after Meg and Jo March. More than a few names are lifted straight from The First Violin. Like the woman who runs the orphanage in Daddy Long Legs, I've sometimes been reduced to looking through the phone book for ideas for surnames, although I've never tried her idea of looking at tombstones for ideas for first names :lol:.

Where did she find Loveday? And Ruhannah? And Deira, which she must have made up! And I know that Evadne's a name from Greek mythology but I've never met anyone actually called Evadne. Or Gilbertine. Hmm...

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I had a Great Aunt Gilbertine born around 1893 always known as Gil with a hard G.


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Alison H wrote:
It's quite interesting thinking about where she got the names from :lol:.
Her favourite book about first names seems to be Charlotte M Yonge's History of Christian Names (1863), which I think was the first one in English that was entirely devoted to the subject. It's the one she has Len and Dr Sheppard talking about in Reunion. CMY does list some of the more unusual names used in the CS books, such as Cyrilla and Cornelia, but not, I think, most of the ones you mention, Alison. It's online here.

ETA: The names are handily listed in an index at the front, so you don't have to wade through lots of pages!


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One of the children in the "Every Sperm Is Sacred" segment in Monty Python's Meaning of Life was called Evadne, but that's the only other time I've come across it. I like the idea that they got it from the CS. :lol:

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One of the children in the "Every Sperm Is Sacred" segment in Monty Python's Meaning of Life was called Evadne, but that's the only other time I've come across it. I like the idea that they got it from the CS. :lol:


More likely to have got it from Hinge and Bracket !

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One of the children in the "Every Sperm Is Sacred" segment in Monty Python's Meaning of Life was called Evadne, but that's the only other time I've come across it. I like the idea that they got it from the CS. :lol:


More likely to have got it from Hinge and Bracket !
Yes, but they (H & B) could just have got the names Evadne and Hilda from the CS... :D. They were children when Arthur Marshall was writing his reviews of GO ficition and humorous sketches for radio based on same.

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EBD has an Armine at the CS.
Deira is an irish abbreviation of Deirdre (Dear-dra not the English Dear-dre

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There was an Arminel on that game show on BBC this afternoon (forget it's name). Wonder if her mother read Chudleigh Hold when she was young?


This is Arminel's answer:

I certainly read the chalet school books, and possibly my mother too. Was there an Arminel in them? My mother chose Arminel because she was at school with one and had a relation of some sort also called Arminel and just liked the name.


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Deira was actually an ancient, Anglo-Saxon kingdom, around and about North Yorkshire and up the coast, so it is an ancient name, and EBD might have read about it in a history book.

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That's the only other context in which I've ever come across Deira: I've never heard it used as a personal name. The jointly-ruled kingdoms were Deira and Bernicia, and Bernice is a name, but not Deira. It sounds as if it should be a name, because it's not dissimilar to Moira or Ciara :D . I was going to say that South Shields might have been in Deira, but I think it was probably too far north and would have been in Bernicia.

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