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 Post subject: Re: Books: Ruey Richardson - Chaletian
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Yikes, that bit about Ted's appearance is missing from my abridged version. I had a mane of messy hair and equally thick, unkempt eyebrows as a kid. I had hair on my upper lip, too. Joey would have made mincemeat out of me!

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We didn't shave our legs in the late '50s, we used the appallingly smelly Veet cream....


I used Immac. It didn't smell too good either.

Regarding Joey going on about Ted's appearance, Joey was quite nasty. On the other hand she was talking to people she trusted and I suppose it was out of concern for Ted.

In years gone by was a person considered a bit shallow if she/he was too concerned about their appearance.

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The CS books are obsessed with looks! Girls even pride themselves on how pretty their teachers are, and, in one book, Miss Norman remarks on how pretty all her colleagues are. Who does that?! You'd think that "handsome is as handsome does" and "beauty is only skin deep" would fit in better with the CS ethos, but they're all obsessed with what people look like, especially in the Swiss books.

The usual tradition in literature is that the heroine is not pretty, or at least that she's less pretty than her sister or her best friend, and that it's personality that counts. EBD does do that with Joey, and even Madge and Mary-Lou are not particularly beautiful compared with other people, but, by the later Swiss books, everyone is practically Miss World standard!

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I remember getting the 3 in 1 paperback as a child, with Ruey, Leader and Trick.
Even then, I thought the new dresses sounded horrific. I cannot imagine what scarlet honeycombing or white revers look like. if anyone ever drew a sketch of the dress as described I'd love to see it!

My own secondary school hung onto summer dresses (green gingham in their own print, blooming expensive for a comprehensive) until 1995, but no one ever wore them.


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"No girl would be expected to give her mind to lessons who is allowed to go about looking like a little freak!"

That's an interesting correlation between academic performance and physical appearance, too.

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That's different :lol: . The usual stereotype is that the girls who concentrate don't bother about what they look like - think Jo in the early books when she's writing, and her hair is a mess and she's got ink all over her fingers - and the ones who do worry about what they look like are frivolous and empty-headed!

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I remember getting the 3 in 1 paperback as a child, with Ruey, Leader and Trick.
Even then, I thought the new dresses sounded horrific. I cannot imagine what scarlet honeycombing or white revers look like. if anyone ever drew a sketch of the dress as described I'd love to see it!
Honeycombing is a type of smocking, as shown here. Revers are the wedge-shaped front bits of a collared neckline: here. I think it would be pretty impractical from the laundering POV, regardless of appearance...


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Thats become even worse in my imagination than what I already had in mind


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Looking at Noreens links makes me very glad I didn't have to wear that style of dress....


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Just think, the other styles must have been truly hideous and horrendous if the chosen design was the best and most attractive.

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Honeycombing or smocking is something that I think is suitable for dresses for babies or little girls not teenagers............

It must have been quite expensive to produce.


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Noreen wrote:
AilidhNoor wrote:
Honeycombing is a type of smocking, as shown here. Revers are the wedge-shaped front bits of a collared neckline: here. I think it would be pretty impractical from the laundering POV, regardless of appearance...


That smocking is summoning up the image of something a very little girl would wear, certainly not a bunch of teenagers. I agree, that sort of collar sounds hopelessly impractical, especially in a boiling hot Swiss summer. Grey necks galore.


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No smocking but the dress looks very similar to what we wore as summer dresses in the early 60s at a High School We had a choice of red stripes or grey stripes


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I don't think they wore those dresses in the summer. EBD seems to rather lose track of the details of the uniform after this, but there are a lot of references to summer dresses (no more than two a week!) and cotton frocks and Jack Lambert is described once a wearing a sun-suit - whatever EBD meant by that!

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I had sun-suits up to the age of ten or so. They were a bit like swim suits with a skirt that came down to about mid-thigh.


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Jenefer wrote:
Honeycombing or smocking is something that I think is suitable for dresses for babies or little girls not teenagers............It must have been quite expensive to produce.

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That smocking is summoning up the image of something a very little girl would wear, certainly not a bunch of teenagers.
Quite (though I have seen smocking on adult garments, it's fairly uncommon).

And I think quite a lot of the rest of it sounds similarly childish, especially the circular yoke and the back-straps:
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... in one the top was buttoned on to the skirt at the waist and could be removed. leaving a well-cut skirt for ordinary use. In another, the pinafore was cut to a deep V back and front with no sides. Yet a third had only shoulder straps crossing at the back and buttoning on under the arms. There were full dresses, not unlike the velveteens the girls wore for the evenings in winter, with plain white collars and cuffs. Yet another had a round neck with yoke to match. The long sleeves ended in rounded cuffs and neck, yoke and cuffs were piped with crimson on the deep gentian blue of the frock. There was one with honeycombing at the shoulders and waist-line, and the V neck was finished off with small revers of white. All were shown to have pockets, either let into the seams or, in the case of the last, patch pockets cut to a V-shape on the front of the skirt. Every skirt was cut with a good flare to leave active legs free and avoid bunchiness.


OK, so which would you have voted for?


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It all sounds horribly fussy for school uniform. We had plain blouses, plain skirts, and plain jumpers! I don't really fancy any of those options.

In the Noel Streatfeild Gemma books, Gemma's mum, who's left her with an aunt and uncle and doesn't seem to appreciate that she's now a teenager and not a little girl, tries to get her to wear a lot of fussy, fancy clothes, and Gemma doesn't like them because she thinks they're babyish.

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We had white collars, (or revers) as in the pattern Noreen shows, and they contrasted quite well with our plain sapphire-blue cotton dresses. There were white cuffs on the short sleeves and a zip up the front from the fitted waist to the bottom edges of the white collars. The skirt was flared, and we all thought they were much better than most summer school uniforms around, though the white collars got dirty quite quickly.

We did moan, though, when we had a new building, and were taken over by a different order of nuns just as my year went into lower sixth. They ordained butcher-striped white/navy summer dresses, which did nothing for anyone. And my dad used to moan rotten when he ironed them, as he said they made his eyes go funny! Bring back the white collars!!

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