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 Post subject: Re: Books: The Chalet School and Jo
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2017, 15:02 
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It's not only weird that the Hillises chose the Tiernsee but that they seemed unaware there was a school there at all. Juliet must surely have told Kay O'Hara all about it...

I suppose if Mrs Hillis senior chose the Tiernsee, and Frank agreed, Kay didn't have any good reason to object.

As to knowing about the school, perhaps she just didn't take in properly what Juliet told her. Or if she did know about it, she couldn't exactly say 'Oh, that's the Chalet School, I knew a girl at Holloway who went there.' Mrs Hillis would have wanted to know all about Juliet, and see the school and call on Madge.

Kay must have had some nasty moments when they met Jack and he invited them to visit; if she knew the Russells were Juliet's guardians, she must have wondered what she'd told them.

Frank Hillis was presumably a decent chap, since he was Jack's friend, so I imagine his mother was a decent person too. She might not have been at all impressed with Kay's behaviour.


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The more we discuss this, the more I see it as an Agatha Christie set up!


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There was something very Agatha Christie-ish about the Carricks themselves. Juliet says that Kay found out that Capt Carrick "made India too hot to hold him". Whilst I appreciate that an officer and a gentleman did not run out on his debts (presumably gambling debts, like Mr Wickham in Pride and Prejudice?), to me that sounds like something a lot worse.

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Financial irregularities in whatever job he was doing perhaps? The type of thing where nothing can be proved, but everyone suspects, and the Carricks aren't received in any respectable households. Possibly the type to bully their subordinates and their servants, too, so maybe some scandal there as well.

The way Dick worded his cable - 'have nothing to do with Carrick' - sounds as if he didn't like the idea of Madge knowing him at all, not just the idea of her having a business relationship with him. Otherwise he might have said 'Don't do business with Carrick'.

Staying with crime fiction, another good looking, charming but weak character is Viscount Saint George. But while he has his faults, I don't think he'd lead a decent girl on then dump her because someone told him to. In any case, the only person with that kind of influence over Jerry is Uncle Peter, and he's in no position to criticise!


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Staying with crime fiction, another good looking, charming but weak character is Viscount Saint George. But while he has his faults, I don't think he'd lead a decent girl on then dump her because someone told him to. In any case, the only person with that kind of influence over Jerry is Uncle Peter, and he's in no position to criticise!

Where does Peter lead a decent girl on and then dump her??? (Bridling in defence of one of my heroes....)

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Alison H wrote:
There was something very Agatha Christie-ish about the Carricks themselves. Juliet says that Kay found out that Capt Carrick "made India too hot to hold him". Whilst I appreciate that an officer and a gentleman did not run out on his debts (presumably gambling debts, like Mr Wickham in Pride and Prejudice?), to me that sounds like something a lot worse.
And the more effective for not spelling it out, since the reader can fill the gap according to age and experience, without giving the young readers more horrors than they can cope with. Captain Carrick could well have been involved in corruption, blackmail and/ or organised crime - I was reminded a little of the villain in Chesterton's Father Brown Story, 'The Sign of the Broken Sword', but as that man's crimes in India and elsewhere included torture, murder and treason I doubt anything so extreme was intended.


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JayB wrote:
Staying with crime fiction, another good looking, charming but weak character is Viscount Saint George. But while he has his faults, I don't think he'd lead a decent girl on then dump her because someone told him to. In any case, the only person with that kind of influence over Jerry is Uncle Peter, and he's in no position to criticise!

Where does Peter lead a decent girl on and then dump her??? (Bridling in defence of one of my heroes....)


Bridling along with you, Cestina! Lord Peter would NEVER do such a thing!!


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Lord Peter would have clearly set out businesslike arrangements, and would behave responsibly within those constraints, and would only propose it to a woman who clearly wanted the same thing. He'd be willing to end an arrangement with someone who behaved badly, but wouldn't dump her for her family connections.

Saint-George wouldn't deliberately lead a woman on, or dump her for her family connections, but I can see him attracting opportunistic types, or there being misunderstandings about what his intentions were. I could see his parents trying to break off an engagement they disapproved of for family connections, though.

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Got round to re reading this one and not far into it I'm struck by how Nell acts, she seems a lot stricter than in later books and perhaps more abrasive.Any else felt that?


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