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 Post subject: Re: Books: The New Chalet School
PostPosted: 05 Apr 2017, 23:10 
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I think the Balbini twins are a thoroughly unpleasant pair. Consider that Mario hit Madge, Jem and Jo in the face with his catapult and lead pellets, evidently purely for pleasure in Madge and Jo's cases. And Maria's words after the kidnapping are pretty shocking: "I know we stole your baby - we meant to hurt your horrid wife, and I hope we did! I heard you say she was ill, and I'm glad!" OK, that's partly out of fright and defiance when she hears about her mother's death, but her speech throughout the book has been quite violent and aggressive. As for Jem's method of breaking the news, I would say that he probably felt that the time for gentle words had passed, and they needed something to pull them up so that they didn't become aggressive and bullying adults - or something even worse, as Audrey suggests.

I do think their father is utterly to blame for not giving them any warning of their mother's impending death and also for not having someone more capable than their aunt and nurse to look after them - but then it feels as if he really is disconnected from them if he thinks that separating them by sending Mario to school in England at this point is a good idea.


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 Post subject: Re: Books: The New Chalet School
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cestina wrote:
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These days the police would be involved and the kids would be looking at some kind of Children's Panel :?

And who is to say that is a better way of dealing with it?


It's a bit of a bizarre case, in that their aim apparently is to hurt Madge rather than Sybil. They have her for hours but they don't do anything to her, so it does just seem like a very nasty prank. I have no idea how the authorities would deal with such a situation nowadays.

I actually think Maria is worse than Mario, I get the impression she is the one directing the situation. She doesn't want to really hurt anyone but she behaves in a very malevolent way.


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 Post subject: Re: Books: The New Chalet School
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Loryat wrote:
It's a bit of a bizarre case, in that their aim apparently is to hurt Madge rather than Sybil. They have her for hours but they don't do anything to her, so it does just seem like a very nasty prank.


If anything Sybil gives them a terrible time!

But that's how I read it as well - that they just wanted to keep Sybil with them for a while rather than actually hurt her.

Though why they needed to travel with her was the question - why not just take her out of the garden and hide with her somewhere for a couple of hours?

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As for Jem's method of breaking the news, I would say that he probably felt that the time for gentle words had passed, and they needed something to pull them up so that they didn't become aggressive and bullying adults - or something even worse, as Audrey suggests.


If you read that passage Jem is described throughout as being tender, and gravely kind as he tells them the bad news. So I agree, he's just trying to drive home that this is where their behaviour has led them to.

Though perhaps he goes a tad too far in telling them they would always remember how she died without seeing them one last time.

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Hi everyone, just a post to say I'm currently in hospital, so this week's discussion thread will be a bit delayed. Just in case anyone wonders if I've forgotten or given up!

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Oh dear :shock:. Hope you're OK.

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All the best, Aquabird, hope it's nothing serious.


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All the best, Aquabird, hope it's nothing serious.

Echoing those best wishes.


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Thank you. I've been feeling pretty bad since I came in on Thursday, but I finally saw the doc this morning and hopefully after some tests I can get a proper diagnosis. It's something to do with my bowel, anyway.

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Hope you get sorted soon Aquabird. Best wishes.


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Thanks for letting us know, and hope they get it all sorted for you soonest!


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Hope you will be better soon Aquabird.


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Thinking of you, Aquabird, and hoping you'll soon be fit again. :wink:

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Hope you are soon much more comfortable Aquabird...

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Hope you're ok Aquabird! Get well soon!


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Get well soon Aquabird! Sending prayers and positive thoughts

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Hope to hear good news from you soon on the diagnosis, Aquabird!

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Hope you feel better soon

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Thanks everyone, the verdict is colitis. :( Hopefully once the forty million steroids they've started me on kick in I can come off the drip and get home. Apart from my health woes I'm so damn bored in here!

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Oh dear, not nice - but could be a very great deal worse. Hope you are home again now, and feeling a lot better.


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I sympathise with the boredom. Hospitals seem to have got it to a fine balance: There's nothing to do and very little of interest going on but every time you try to settle to a good read or even a nap, someone comes along and disturbs you.

I hope you'll be feeling better and home shortly


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