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 Post subject: Re: Bullying?
PostPosted: 09 Aug 2017, 14:04 
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Jack definitely has a bullying disposition, and I recall reading that book (I've since lost my copy so my memory is hazy) and being horrified at her behaviour and at how the school handled it.

IIRC, she and Jane end up very good friends, and I couldn't believe Jane would want to be friends with someone so unpleasant. In my experience bullies do not 'change their spots' like that, and just tend to transfer their behaviour to a new target.

There's an episode in 'Barbara' where she is wrongly accused of something, which sets the scene for an episode of bullying, but never really comes to anything

'Barbara paled and then went red again as she looked round the ring of faces. It was unfortunate for her that none of the Gang were there. Neither was Clare who would have put a stop to this kind of baiting at once, and given her a chance to speak up for herself. '


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AilidhNoor wrote:
There's an episode in 'Barbara' where she is wrongly accused of something, which sets the scene for an episode of bullying, but never really comes to anything


Because, in one of those CS moments that make you want to stand up and cheer, Vi puts a very effective end to it.

Which is one of the reasons I loved the CS as a kid because popular pretty kids like Vi and ML stand up to bullies on behalf of other kids. So later in the series when Margot and Jack indulge in bullying tactics themselves, it's a bit of a jolt.

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Jack definitely has a bullying disposition, '


So does Margot and it comes out in her 'coaching' which scares the younger girls to the point that they deliberately avoid her.

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Well, Margot's behaviour on the hockey pitch was disgraceful. It's in 'Challenge' and when she confesses to the Games Mistress, she gets away with it.

Jayb's version on Lime Green Musing, is much better, for once, Margot gets her comeuppance.

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Any chance that you can give the title of Jay Bs srabble please
would love to read it


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Any chance that you can give the title of Jay Bs srabble please
would love to read it


I think it must be My Filthy Temper Again by JayB in SDL.


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AilidhNoor wrote:
IIRC, Jack and Jane end up very good friends, and I couldn't believe Jane would want to be friends with someone so unpleasant. In my experience bullies do not 'change their spots' like that, and just tend to transfer their behaviour to a new target.'

I'm not sure about 'wanting' to become friends with a bully, but it does happen. I was badly bullied, in my first year at grammar school, by two girls who came from the same school - not mine! They made fun of my voice - I didn't have the local Nottingham accent - to such an extent that I became afraid to open my mouth for the next few years, so sensitive was I about how 'awful' I must sound. I still often feel that way, even today. They also made fun of the parts of my uniform that were hand-made, eg cardigan and summer school dress, because money was in short supply at home. They were both well off and didn't understand. My mother said I changed completely in that year, from a happy-outgoing child to a very self-contained one who found refuge in books. And yet, by the time we got to fifth form, we were good friends, so much so that I once even went on holiday with one of them and her parents. Did we remain friends after school? No!

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MaryR wrote:
And yet, by the time we got to fifth form, we were good friends, so much so that I once even went on holiday with one of them and her parents. Did we remain friends after school? No!


One of the group of girls who bullied me was the daughter of one of my father's friends. So at church youth group and outside of school, she was 'friends' with me. But once we got to the school gates, she went off to her group and promptly joined in the bullying again.

Once primary school was over, I seldom spoke to her again even though her family stayed friends with mine.

Years later when she had her own family and mum dragged me over to her place on a visit, she told me her daughter was being bullied at school. Ironically she wanted me to talk to her daughter about how I "dealt with it."

I simply said "that's called karma." I didn't say that to the kid though!

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ann S wrote:
Any chance that you can give the title of Jay Bs srabble please
would love to read it


I think it must be My Filthy Temper Again by JayB in SDL.


That's a much better version of events and true to what the Chalet School would have done in previous years or for a different character. I do think EBD had a problem with doing anything against the MBR clan, but then Margot (and young Sybil) were too strong as characters for her to write them any other way, hence the "turning a blind eye" which wouldn't have happened for anyone else.


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PostPosted: 17 Aug 2017, 04:47 
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Peg wrote:
hence the "turning a blind eye" which wouldn't have happened for anyone else.


And the covering up that goes on to protect her is insane. Especially when she nearly kills Betty with a block of wood. I wonder what the Landon's thought when Betty went home and told her parents what happened.

And why?! I know EBD would not think about stuff like the school being sued, but there is no logic given for why Miss Annersley would hush up the whole affair. Except to protect her best friend's daughter.

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