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 Post subject: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 30 Oct 2017, 18:03 
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I am following the re-read (great fun) although I don't often read most of the Swiss books. My German is almost nil, but would you really call your house 'Happy Home'? It would seem very odd to me, if I heard a British house called that. Does it work differently in other languages? Most of the named houses I know refer to their situation, ie, Station House, or a nearby feature - Cherry Tree Cottage, for example. Of course, nowadays there seems to be a fancy for making up a house name based on the names of the people who live there. My neighbours have called their house Brentim
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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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Know what you mean, but I think it does work differently in other languages. Apart from the owner-name-mixing, which is quite an English-language favourite, house names in English do tend to be factual, even prosaically so - though I remember one in childhood called 'Tall Trees' that had a couple of scrubby bushes by the gate. To this day I don't know why there was a house down the road from here called 'Corbiere' unless the people who lived there came from Jersey or liked light-houses [I just looked it up on Wikipedia and it means 'place where crows gather' which is true here, but only recently].


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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I think the name works perfectly well in German. It's not Happy Home, it's Freudesheim, which means Happy Home - but you wouldn't say the latter when talking about it there. I've known a few 'weird' house names in my time in France, but only weird when translated into English.

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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 30 Oct 2017, 21:40 
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Supersal wrote:
My neighbours have called their house Brentim
(named Brenda and Tim).


My grandparents called theirs Maesyde - Mabel and Sydney :lol:. It was a small three bedroomed semi in a North Manchester surburb, and I have no idea why they wanted to give it a name when it had a number like every other house in the street, but maybe they thought it sounded good :lol:. And that was in 1939, so the idea's been going a long time!

Some people go for things like Dunroamin', but things like The Oaks, The Beeches, The Old Rectory etc are more common. However, Madge's house in Guernsey was called Bonne Maison, which is pretty similar to Freudesheim.

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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 30 Oct 2017, 22:46 
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The German word Freudenhaus means brothel. I can't imagine that EBD knew that! :lol:
The difference between: Haus/heim = house/home.

Grammatically, I think, it should have been Freudenheim not Freudesheim

Sorry to be so pedantic - perhaps I should have posted this on that thread?

Bonne Maison? Possibly. Die Rosen? Not sure. Das Pferd (The Horse - Gisela and Gottried's house) Really?

Probably the most acceptable CS house name is Cartref as there are lots of Welsh homes called that.


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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Noreen wrote:
Know what you mean, but I think it does work differently in other languages. Apart from the owner-name-mixing, which is quite an English-language favourite, house names in English do tend to be factual, even prosaically so - though I remember one in childhood called 'Tall Trees' that had a couple of scrubby bushes by the gate. To this day I don't know why there was a house down the road from here called 'Corbiere' unless the people who lived there came from Jersey or liked light-houses [I just looked it up on Wikipedia and it means 'place where crows gather' which is true here, but only recently].


Maybe they backed Corbiere when it won the Grand National and that's what paid for the house?


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Yes, I saw "Corbiere" and thought of the Grand National!

Die Rosen and Les Rosiers are fairly similar names, as well as Freudesheim and Bonne Maison.

:lol: :lol: at Freudenhaus.

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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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My favourite of all EMBD's house names is 'Many Bushes', which would be very accurate for the house I live in - and EMBD seems to have liked it too, as she used it twice (Dr Marilliar's house and Phoebe Wychcote's house if I remember correctly).

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Maybe they backed Corbiere when it won the Grand National and that's what paid for the house?
That would be brilliant - sadly the people are long gone and I think the house no longer has a name. There is a family legend that my great-grandmother gave my grandfather (her second son) two middle names that were from racehorses (Penfold, Canon)...

Getting back on topic, whatever else she decided on, I can't see Jo the Napoleon admirer sticking with the original inspiration for the house's name - (Pension) Wellington.


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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2017, 02:17 
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I miss the days when houses were given names, it just seems like a lovely thing to do.

There are a few houses in older suburbs in Sydney which still have names but that is getting rarer. The names are usually after an ancestor, family name or even an English cricket ground (!) rather than an attribute of the property.

Enid Blyton also has a house called Happy Home, which does seem to be tempting fate.

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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2017, 09:49 
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Has anyone ever compliled a list of CS house names? That would be interesting.


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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I understood that having a house with a name was posher than just a number.

There is a road near me where the houses all have names but no number.


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2017, 11:42 
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Many villages - especially in the Cotswolds, seem to have practically every house named "The Old ...... School, Rectory, Vicarage, Forge, Post Office, etc" - signs of changing times. One that amuses me is a house situated in the middle of a large housing estate on the edge of Bristol a long way from the sea named "The Old Light House". Someone with a sense of humour lives there!


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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Joyce wrote:
I miss the days when houses were given names, it just seems like a lovely thing to do.

There are a few houses in older suburbs in Sydney which still have names but that is getting rarer. The names are usually after an ancestor, family name or even an English cricket ground (!) rather than an attribute of the property.

Enid Blyton also has a house called Happy Home, which does seem to be tempting fate.


Yes, I agree that house names sound much nicer than numbers. Although I find it a bit pretentious when someone moves into, say, 25 Southhill Crescent and immediately renames their house Southhill House.


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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As a community midwife I HATE house names with a vengence - trying to find the correct house is hard enough with numbers


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Be happy you don't work in a small Czech town or village then Claire - houses are numbered according to when they were built. So you can have number 1 right next door to number 435 in the same street.

In the larger towns all residences have two numbers, a logical one and the one when the place was built and both are supposed to appear on addresses, but don't always.

In the smaller towns and villages the post people just have to learn the map of house numbers off by heart!

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cestina wrote:
Be happy you don't work in a small Czech town or village then Claire - houses are numbered according to when they were built. So you can have number 1 right next door to number 435 in the same street.

In the larger towns all residences have two numbers, a logical one and the one when the place was built and both are supposed to appear on addresses, but don't always.

In the smaller towns and villages the post people just have to learn the map of house numbers off by heart!


House numbers in Venice seem to be totally unfindable - street name, department no, then district no, with a house number high up on the building and not much used!


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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Vintagejazz wrote:
Yes, I agree that house names sound much nicer than numbers. Although I find it a bit pretentious when someone moves into, say, 25 Southhill Crescent and immediately renames their house Southhill House.


And if you are going to do that and call your house 'Blue Gates' then for heaven's sake paint the gates blue not red!


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
PostPosted: 01 Nov 2017, 09:28 
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And if you move into a house called "The Chimes" - don't complain about the church clock!


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 Post subject: Re: Freudesheim
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thefrau46 wrote:
Has anyone ever compliled a list of CS house names? That would be interesting.
I started one, but I'm sure it's not complete - and you quoted a good few of them yourself. :D

Adlersnest: home to the Graves and Courvoisier families
Carn Beg: the Trelawney home in Armishire
Cartref: a house owned by Cdr Christy
Das Pferd: Gottfried and Gisela’s house
Freudesheim: Jo & Jack’s home in Switzerland
Les Arbres: the Lucys’ home in Guernsey
Les Rosiers: Jo & Jack’s home in Guernsey, where the triplets are born
Many Bushes: Dr Marilliar’s house and also (elsewhere) Phoebe Wychcote’s house
Pension Wellington: former name of Freudesheim
Plas Howell: the Howell family’s mansion in Armishire, which is lent to the CS
Plas Gwyn: Jo & Jack’s home in Armifordshire
The Quadrant: Dick & Mollie Bettany’s House in Devon
The Round House: Jem & Madge’s home in Armiford
The Witchens: house Joey and Co stay in during Rescue
Madge & Jem’s un-named house at Llan-y-Penllan in the Black Mountains of Wales


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