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PostPosted: 23 Mar 2018, 01:16 
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Why Copper wasn't allowed to be Copper, whereas Tom Gay was allowed to be Tom! (Also, surely changing her name from Flavia would assist in the disguise!

Would the Nazis really have cared so much about the Peace League?

At what point after the picnic did Joey get engaged, given she had collapsed?

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Why Copper wasn't allowed to be Copper, whereas Tom Gay was allowed to be Tom! (Also, surely changing her name from Flavia would assist in the disguise!


I think it's because Tom is an actual first name whereas Copper is not. Had Tom used the nickname Beanpole or something, the school probably wouldn't have gone for that.

It would have been smart to let Copper use another name. Maybe a middle name if she had one.

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Why Copper wasn't allowed to be Copper, whereas Tom Gay was allowed to be Tom! (Also, surely changing her name from Flavia would assist in the disguise!


I think it's because Tom is an actual first name whereas Copper is not. Had Tom used the nickname Beanpole or something, the school probably wouldn't have gone for that.

It would have been smart to let Copper use another name. Maybe a middle name if she had one.


Maybe they thought that Copper could refer to her policeman father and be a giveaway!


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Maybe not so strange Mary Lou getting a special prize. I was reading recently of a girl ( Molly Weir), born in Glasgow in 1910 who was awarded a special prize of a gold watch from her teachers for being such a superlative dux of her school. This was a one-off and it was a state school.

Mary Lou, IMHO, was certainly the kindest, most thoughtful and helpful girl of her time in the CS, probably ever. She was a great leader and I for one think she fully deserved a special prize.

What's more she managed to escape from the clutches of Elinor and wrote her own part in the series, hence the reason she didn't end up on the Platz with no career of her own, married to a doctor.


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What the title 'The Chalet School Goes To It' means. I can't remember how old I was when I first read it but I remember thinking 'The Chalet School goes to what?' and I don't think I ever found out what it meant. I think it was a saying during one of the world wars? Can someone please explain it to me? I think the revised title for the book 'The Chalet School At War' was easier to understand although it makes me think of all the girls as soldiers.

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"Go To It" as an idiom just means to get started on something but it implies doing so with some vigour and enthusiasm.

It appeared on a poster in the early war years that was used very widely. (A picture and some information can be found https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/the-story ... 98199.html ). The expression would have been familiar to readers of the time.


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https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... h/go-to-it

I am the generation born during the war and have always understood it to mean 'gets on with it' which seems to fit the dictionary definition. I was outraged by the change in the title....

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Thank you Cestina and Victoria for your explanations!

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The names! I had no idea how to pronounce Grizel or Gisela, particularly. Evadne wasn’t so bad (Hinge and Bracket were on TV), but even then I don’t think I’d ever seen it written down.

It took a week in bed with German Measles to get over those names and get to the story...


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I am sure I am not the only one who thought Margot was pronounced Mar-got


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It wasn't until I watched the Good Life that I realised just how Margot should be pronounced lol.


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I still have no clue how EBD imagined the pronunciation of "The Chaletian".....

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I've always thought of it as 'Shall-ay-shun' but I have no idea what EBD intended!

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Whereas I've always thought of it as 'Shall-ett-ian' - and as you say, cestina and abbeybufo, who knows what our author's intention was?


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I'm another who didn't know how to pronounce many of the names on first reading. I know now how they should be pronounced, but the 'wrong' way is so ingrained I still tend to hear them like that in my head.

OTOH, I was confused by the argument over how to pronounce Maria in ?Wins the Trick. Mar-ee-a was the only pronunciation I knew - half Italian girl in my class at primary school who of course pronounced it that way - so I couldn't think what other way there could be.

Maria of The Stuffer and Maria was presumably a Mar-eye-a, but I still hear it as Mar-ee-a in my head.


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It took me meeting a real life Gisela to realize that Ji-zell- a was not at all the way it should have been pronounced.

And my hooked-on-phonics Grizzle ... well, never mind...


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The penny has only dropped recently that Eustacia is the female form of Eustace - I always thought of it as u-stay-sha similar to Patricia.


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lizco wrote:
The penny has only dropped recently that Eustacia is the female form of Eustace - I always thought of it as u-stay-sha similar to Patricia.


Really??? I've got that wrong then. Better add me to the list of people confused by names.


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I recognised Margot because of Margot Fonteyn and similarly ballet-themed I pronounced Gisela as Ji-sella from 'Giselle.' I still think Geezla is ugly. Though I know I should say (or rather think) Tekla rather than Thekla - I can't.


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Mel wrote:
I recognised Margot because of Margot Fonteyn and similarly ballet-themed I pronounced Gisela as Ji-sella from 'Giselle.' I still think Geezla is ugly. Though I know I should say (or rather think) Tekla rather than Thekla - I can't.


Huh, it never occurred me that Thekla would be pronounced Tekla. Not sure I'll be able to read it that way after pronouncing the "Th" for so long.

I read the books out of order, so I was taken aback to learn Simone has a sister. I always think of her as an only child.

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