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PostPosted: 31 Oct 2018, 12:16 
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Just thinking about the Halloween party in Exploits, when they do apple bobbing, and jump over candles, and play with bits of molten metal, and Thekla's frilly underwear caught fire :roll: . It was easier to organise things like that when the school was smaller, but it sounds like so much more fun than the paper games in Switzerland!

It's quite interesting to read about a Halloween party in the 1930s, because it's become so much more of a commercialised big deal in recent years - in the UK, anyway - that it's easy to forget that things like apple bobbing have been around for years.

Was it the best evening entertainment ever, or do people actually prefer the paper games? The staff party in New Mistress always sounds like a nightmare: I wish I'd got to torture certain of my teachers like that :lol: .

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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
PostPosted: 31 Oct 2018, 14:28 
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I hate the commercialisation of Hallow'een in the UK and trick or treating which sometimes can end in intimidation.

In my small village in France, it has become more commercialised but the children dress up and are accompanied by their parents. The bell is at the gate rather than at the door and they wait there to be invited in or not. The Youth Club is having a Hallow'een Party for the teenagers and all this seems a good compromise between traditional and contemporary.

I would much prefer the CS Hallow'een party to paper games. I would also have "pea football" - blowing dried peas with a straw across a "pitch" to score goals. I would ask the teen-agers to tell a ghost/scary story by the light of pumpkin lanterns.


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Has to be sheets and pillowcases!


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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
PostPosted: 01 Nov 2018, 00:38 
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Re trick or treating, the convention here (Western Australia) is to leave your porch light on if you are taking part in Halloween. No porch light, no young visitors!


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The Hallowe'en party sounds like a lot of fun, but also a lot of work, and so a special treat, while the paper games would be more of a normal weekend activity. The one thing they didn't do was costumes.

Trick-or-treating seems to be becoming less popular in Canada and the US. People are afraid their kids are going to be poisoned or abducted or run over, so they have safe little parties inside where they are given a carefully curated bag of candy. It's a shame, though. Hallowe'en was fantastic fun, and it was all about the costumes and a bucket of candy, and checking through the loot at the end of the evening to see what you got. Little kids went early with parents in tow, older kids went in groups on their own, and ~13 years was the age limit (I'd still give candy to teenagers, but they'd have to sing a song to get it).

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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
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jennifer wrote:
Trick-or-treating seems to be becoming less popular in Canada and the US. People are afraid their kids are going to be poisoned or abducted or run over, so they have safe little parties inside where they are given a carefully curated bag of candy. It's a shame, though. Hallowe'en was fantastic fun, and it was all about the costumes and a bucket of candy, and checking through the loot at the end of the evening to see what you got. Little kids went early with parents in tow, older kids went in groups on their own, and ~13 years was the age limit (I'd still give candy to teenagers, but they'd have to sing a song to get it).


I’m going to have to disagree... there were 895 kids to my door tonight. In larger cities the number may be more controlled, or in some small communities where the population is more dispersed. But in wet and almost freezing weather, the kids are still out and about.


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It's definitely become more popular here. We used to have pumpkin lanterns and apple bobbing in the '80s, and sometimes fancy dress parties, but no-one went Trick or Treating. I like the way there are so many pumpkins outside houses and other buildings in the US in October, but it gets a bit too wet in the autumn here :lol: . The upper age limit's a good idea - older kids don't seem to make much effort with costumes, and I once got one incredibly rude kid moaning that I'd given her chocolate instead of money :banghead:, but little ones seem to make a big effort and be having fun.

I was also reading earlier this week about the popularity of pumpkins has boosted local farms. I go fruit picking - strawberries and raspberries in the summer, and a pumpkin in October! - every year at a lovely family-owned farm, and they unfortunately had a bad summer this year because of the mad weather, but they've had a big pumpkin crop so will hopefully have done well with that. More fun than just getting one from the supermarket! Not something the CS people ever did, although Robin and Daisy did go hop picking during the war!

The jumping over lights and molten metal games sound great - although they'd probably fall foul of health and safety rules now.

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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
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Pumpkin lanterns. Pah! Bring back the turnip lanterns of my youth, that's what I say!


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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
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Assorted groups of pumpkins and other autumnal decorations appear on most Czech village doorsteps and windowsills at this time of the year. It's lovely to see. I don't think it is much to do with Hallowe'en and trick or treating though.

We used to have a Hallowe'en party at boarding school in the 1950s - apple bobbing, blindfolded identifying of disgusting substances, a ghost train, fortune telling are all amongst my memories...

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Pumpkin lanterns. Pah! Bring back the turnip lanterns of my youth, that's what I say!
Punky night?


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Biddy tells ghost stories, but - as with midnight feasts! - it has to turn into a huge drama, with someone having nightmares!

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 Post subject: Re: Halloween entertainment
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My stepdad grows pumpkins on his allotment, but he's not doing any Halloween stuff, just making them into soup, pie etc.
Victoria wrote:
Pumpkin lanterns. Pah! Bring back the turnip lanterns of my youth, that's what I say!

Are you Irish/Scottish by any chance? I've got an Irish friend who carves turnips instead of pumpkins. Nightmare to carve, apparently. Another friend from Liverpool says turnips are a lot more common there, probably because so many Scousers are of Irish descent.

I didn't get any kids last night. You can tell which houses on my road are doing Halloween, they're the ones with pumpkins outside. One house had about 20 pumpkins of different shapes and sizes - I even saw a white one.


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Turnips were the standard thing all over the UK, until fairly recently :D .

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Pineapples for Halloween carving were seen for sale in my local supermarket ...


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Re: Turnips.

I lived in both the North and the South during my childhood and turnips (aka swedes) were used in both places. Pumpkins have really only arrived in 30 years or so - amother import from the USA.


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When my daughter was younger we(I) carved turnip lanterns for her, and it was jolly hard work.I was quite delighted that pumpkins became popular in later years, yes slimy inside but oh so much easier to carve. :)


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i'm afraid that Halloween passed e by this year. Not a single knock on the door, not a single child appeared on the road, nothing. Mind you, I'm not one for giving on these occasions, so perhaps it's as well.

I never give to carol singers either, not when they sing 'We wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year.' then knock and expect money. I ask them what they're doing, and when they tell me they are carol singers, I ask them to sing one. They can't, they don't know any proper carols, so they have to leave without money.

yes, I'm the local Grinch.

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Jennie wrote:
yes, I'm the local Grinch.


Apparently tramps and/or gypsies were supposed to have secret marks near houses to indicate where they should/shouldn't ask for donations. Perhaps over the years the children (for Halloween) and the carol singers at Christmas have learned to avoid your house?

If so, the good news is that you shouldn't be bothered in the future.


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