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PostPosted: 23 Oct 2021, 09:50 
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Just doing a little research for the November challenge over on LGM.
American pupils: Corney, Evvy, Louise Redfield/Redmond, Mary Shaw, Mary Shand, Elma Conroy (Tirol). Any more?

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Samantha van der Byl, but she's much later. And don't Corney's daughters go to the school?

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Don’t think Corney’s daughters are old enough to be at the school by end of the series?

Think the Pertwees are American, or maybe just the mother is? They do go back to America and Corney looks after them I think.


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I think Mrs Pertwee was just working - book tour promotion - in America when she fell ill, and that was why the girls ended up with Cornelia, who very kindly took them in. (Out of the entire United States, she just happened to take ill whilst in Boston, where Corney lived!) Corney talks about her daughters going to the school when they're old enough.

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I think Mrs Pertwee was just working - book tour promotion - in America when she fell ill, and that was why the girls ended up with Cornelia, who very kindly took them in. (Out of the entire United States, she just happened to take ill whilst in Boston, where Corney lived!) Corney talks about her daughters going to the school when they're old enough.

Agreed and :D :D :D at the coincidence but no more that Jo bumping into Erica on Oxford Street. :D :D

The drabble will be set in the future so I could possibly use Samantha van der Byl and Corney's children.


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I can't think of any others at the moment unless you count relations, such as the Ruhannah for whom Ruey Richardson was named, and Eugen von und zu Wertheimer's mother, whose relations Marie's family and Wanda & children were visiting in Exile. Given that Marie wasn't exactly English and that the Americans were Eugen's kinfolk, I was surprised that Marie had assimilated CS prejudices so thoroughly that Keferl's Americanization* seemed to be one of their reasons for leaving America at that point in the war -- assuming, of course, that Madge could find an appropriate small house with a minimum of six bedrooms and three sitting-rooms.

*I've been assuming U.S. American, since Marie had learned "nearly as much American as Evvy and Corney" and Keferl had become a "regular little Yankee." However, Marie was close enough to Toronto to run into Louise Redfield visiting there last week, so maybe EBD meant Canada. Then again, it would be far easier to pop over to Toronto from parts of the U.S. than from Montreal, which is magically in commuting distance of Toronto in Shocks.

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Thanks, Kathy_S. I was planning to use pupils only but I was wondering whether I'd missed any.
I see that you are US based. would you like to write the Thanksgiving drabble instead of me?
Here's the link http://www.annersley.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1136


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Bernhilda and Kurt were living in New York after the war, so it's possible that the von und zu Wertheimers and the von Glucks were all there as well, although we don't know whereabouts Eugen's relatives lived.

The bit about Louise makes no sense at all. We're told that the Redfields are living in the Rockies (although later they're in Vancouver Island) but that Louise has come to Toronto to visit an old schoolfriend (even though she came from New Orleans and went to school in Austria!) and Marie bumped into her there ... but we were told clearly earlier on that they were in America, because Eugen had family there, and there are references later on to Wolferl, as well as Keferl having a "Yankee accent".

And, after the war, Madge is in Toronto, but bumps into Cornelia in Boston. I'm not sure that EBD had much idea of distance :roll: .

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My list for American students is Louise Redfield, Evadne Lannis, Cornelia Flower, Elma Conroy, Mary Shaw, Mary Shand, Marie Varick, Samantha van der Byl. Evadne is only half American; her mother is Austrian.

Louise has three children; the eldest is a girl (Louette), and is a small child or baby in Wrong; three children are mentioned in Reunion. Cornelia has two daughters, Meg and Terry, both are mentioned in Reunion. She's engaged and about to be married in Peggy, which gives a timeline for ages. Evadne has a couple of step-kids with her English husband, and is pregnant late in the series. Yseult Pertwee marries in the US, so possibly to an American, and is pregnant in Reunion and will name the child Arthur or Mary.

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Thanks. I'd missed Marie Varick.


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Doesn't...is it Bette? go to live in America after her husband died in the same accident as Robin's father? I'm hazy on the details, but I'm sure we're told she ended up somewhere out in the mid-west as a housekeeper and went on to marry her boss. So she could well have children who would be American.

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No, that was Canada :D .

I don't think EBD mentions her again - although it does sound a bit like a mail order bride thing! We're told in one of the fill-ins that she's married her employer - possibly one of the short stories in the Christmas story book.

Bernhilda and Kurt settle in New York, and have more children there, but I don't think we're ever told whether or not they've taken American citizenship.

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Bernhilda's kids would be American citizens, by virtue of being born there, at any rate.

With Bette we're also told that she lost all her money, hence needing to work. However, a Canadian farmer recruiting a housekeeper from Europe who came with two small children seems very unlikely to me, particularly when said housekeeper was a recently impoverished well to do woman who didn't have much experience taking care of a household.

Someone advertising for a wife and stepmother would make more sense, particularly in an isolated area. It would have been quite a shock for Bette though, as I doubt she had any idea what a life on a depression era prairie farm would be like.

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Thanks, Kathy_S. I was planning to use pupils only but I was wondering whether I'd missed any.
I see that you are US based. would you like to write the Thanksgiving drabble instead of me?
Here's the link http://www.annersley.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1136


Thank you, but I suspect you will be much more inspired.
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