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 Post subject: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 13:06 
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Here's the link. Ctrl+ will enlarge it quite a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Title - Strange Fluctuations

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2. So sad I felt my heart would break
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4. I wandered about the drear dank lake
5.
6.
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12. I thought what an idiot I had been

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Title - Strange Fluctuations

1. It was a pe( ) weather and I was sad
2. So sad I felt my heart would break
3. ( )and badly clad
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Title - Strange Fluctuations

1. It was April weather and I was sad
2. So sad I felt my heart would break
3. ( )and badly clad
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake
5.
6.
7. But the weathervane moved and the sun came out
8. A cowslip at my feet looked up
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10.
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Strange Fluctuations

1. It was April weather and I was sad;
2. So sad I felt my heart would break.
3. All the sky meant rain and badly clad,
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake.
5. If I weren't a Christian, I would plunge,
6. And wipe out my troubles as with a sponge.

7. But the weathervane moved and the sun came out;
8. A cowslip at my feet looked up
9.
10.
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Strange Fluctuations

1. It was April weather and I was sad;
2. So sad I felt my heart would break.
3. All the sky meant rain and badly clad,
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake.
5. If I weren't a Christian, I would plunge,
6. And wipe out my troubles as with a sponge.

7. But the weathervane moved and the sun came out;
8. A cowslip at my feet looked up
9. All the ?trees/?pines/?firs shook drips about
10. The ?birds/?swallows/?swifts came out for song and ?sup
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 00:14 
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Was this one easier, or all we all getting better at them?

For line 9, I'd come up with, "All the trees shook dripping limbs about" I'm not sure which of the two is likely to be more accurate in the eyes of the Examiners though.

Is there an "and" in line 7? It seems to give it 11 syllables, which is one more than any other line has. Could there perhaps just be a comma instead?

What about punctuation generally? I added some earlier to the first verse (assuming it is 2 verses of course), but it's probably questionable. Does anyone else like the idea of an exclamation mark at the end of the final line?


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 12:27 
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Maybe a semicolon in line 7?

... and I think we're getting more used to the way the setters work - bit like getting used to a crossword compiler's way of thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 15:14 
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I love cryptic crosswords! I was introduced to them at 18 during nightshifts at Heathrow Met Office and have been doing them ever since.

Does anyone want to do any tweaking before I look up the solution? The line lengths seem to be mixed in this one and, while I think it's deliberate on the part of the setters, I have a feeling we're still not wordperfect yet.

Strange Fluctuations

1. It was April weather and I was sad;
2. So sad I felt my heart would break.
3. All the sky meant rain and badly clad,
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake.
5. If I weren't a Christian, I would plunge,
6. And wipe out my troubles as with a sponge.

7. But the weathervane moved; the sun came out,
8. A cowslip at my feet looked up.
9. All the ?trees/?pines/?firs shook drips about,
10. The ?birds/?swallows/?swifts came out for song and ?sup
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been!


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 15:34 
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So L 9 would be:
All the trees shook dripping limbs about

Don't like the end of L 10 - I doubt it matters what kind of birds is meant though swallows scans best - but it's definitely song [s on g]; then there's a high 's' and it rhymes with up in line 8 ... It's 'came forth' not 'came out', too - my fault, I typed it wrongly [probably echoing line 7!] ... so presumably:

10. The swallows came forth for song and sup

Think Line 3 needs comma after rain, and poss not at end of line, too.

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 16:26 
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I've incorporated the amendments, I've also added O to line 5 as there's an "o" in the picture that we hadn't incorporated.

I couldn't get anything other than "sup" for the end of line 10 either.

Any more for any more before I look up the solution?

Strange Fluctuations

1. It was April weather and I was sad;
2. So sad I felt my heart would break.
3. All the sky meant rain, and badly clad
4. I wandered about the drear dank lake.
5. If I weren't a Christian, O, I would plunge,
6. And wipe out my troubles as with a sponge.

7. But the weathervane moved; the sun came out,
8. A cowslip at my feet looked up.
9. All the trees shook dripping limbs about,
10. The swallows came forth for song and sup
11. And my linen looked so refreshed and clean
12. I thought what an idiot I had been!


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Nothing more to add!


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 16:32 
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Nor I, apart from correcting the typo in L9...! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 20:57 
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Here's the solution and the Examiners' Report (Ctrl+ will enlarge it.)

I'm afraid we wouldn't even have got an Honourable Mention, our punctuation let us down, although I'm not sure how we were supposed to know some of it.

Have you had enough, or would you like another?


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 21:22 
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Oh, I'm always willing to try another. My experience is more with rebuses, which contain some truly dreadful puns (like a baby in a barrel - 'babe in tun' - for the surname Babbington) that make these puzzles look positively benign!


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:43 
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I may not have time to contribute for a bit, but do carry on.

Still not sure how they get 'garde' from the squiggly line, though ...

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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 22:50 
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Funnily enough, I did google a definition of "garde", because it seemed the obvious word as far as the poem was concerned, but nothing remotely resembling the picture came up!


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 Post subject: Re: A Fourth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 13 Mar 2017, 23:11 
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OED online doesn't seem to know it either!


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