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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2017, 23:27 
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2 And take flying? leaps through the air?
Yes, sounds (and looks) right to me. And might the fish be lying on accessible shores (leash - a ore + s) to avoid the keen pain of being hooked?


Aha! leash rather than lead - like it! I had wondered if we could get keen from that tall 'e' too!

So now we're at:

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1. Far over the sea where the wallabies grow,
2. And take flying leaps through the air
3. Where ice is unknown and the colour of snow
4. Is the same as it is everywhere.

5. Where oysters are sold at three pence for three scores,
6. Where the fishes are caught ready-cooked;
7. And lie in neat rows on accessible shores,
8. To avoid the keen pain of being hooked

9. Where apple pies grow ready made on the tree
10. And roast geese are common as flies
11. .........................................................for me
12. And you might let me know where it lies

So it's just line 11 now, but I'm just off to bed and going away for the weekend, so you might have got it cracked before I can check again!

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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 25 Mar 2017, 00:30 
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I had wondered if we could get keen from that tall 'e' too!
I was thinking of it as a long 'e' (groan)! Enjoy the weekend :-).


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2017, 21:48 
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Sorry to spree, but could line 11 begin "O that the..."? I'm not at all sure what the long object is, though - looks like a window-seat to me, but why the space at one end?


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2017, 22:57 
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I think line 11 might start "O that this....."

I can't make out what the long object is either. I wondered about seat/bed/berth/bench, but I can't make anything out of any of them.


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2017, 10:28 
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"Oh that this bed were ready for me
And you might let me know where it lies..."

I leave it to cleverer brains than mine to work out how to get "were ready" out of the symbols presented :D

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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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I think I've got it! Could it be a counter which, minus the e and with a y becomes country?


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Ingenious! Further musings - the missing elements between 'this' and 'for' seem to me to take up five syllables. I also wonder whether the 'ie' in front of the picture of the form could be 'that is'.


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 28 Mar 2017, 12:11 
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Oh yes country makes much more sense than bed here. And it looks like the counters in my Dutch coffee shop. Though the far end looks as if it has some sort of pillow on it which is odd...

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I wondered about the ie being that is too, but it leaves an extra s.

Thinking out loud, it looks as though it should be a word that means real as in does actually exist. x2 suggests that the next word begins with counter/countr too. Could it be a long word with an ending that fits phonetically to ofies? I can't get any further than that.

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For a Change

1. Far over the sea where the wallabies grow,
2. And take flying leaps through the air;
3. Where ice is unknown and the colour of snow,
4. Is the same as it is everywhere.

5. Where oysters are sold at three pence for three scores,
6. Where the fishes are caught ready-cooked;
7. And lie in neat rows on accessible shores,
8. To avoid the keen pain of being hooked.

9. Where apple pies grow ready made on the tree,
10. And roast geese are common as flies
11. Oh that this country ...................................for me
12. And you might let me know where it lies


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
PostPosted: 02 Apr 2017, 14:34 
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Apologies for the delay in posting the solution and Examiners' Report, I couldn't find it!

I did track it down eventually, so here it is

(And they were chickens after all!)


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Thanks, Annie - I think we didn't do too badly with this one - definitely improving, anyway.


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We still wouldn't even have managed an Honourable Mention though. I never even gave indents and hyphens a thought!


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Well, we are at the disadvantage of living in a very different era - some of this stuff would have come naturally to them, and some of the forms that were so mundane to them - like a till which is a lockable drawer - are quite unfamiliar to us.


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 Post subject: Re: A Sixth Victorian Puzzle Poem
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Annied wrote:
(And they were chickens after all!)

Well, I did say they look different without their feathers!!

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Yes, you had the right idea. I was working on the basis that they wouldn't have had dead plucked chickens dancing around and that whatever we were looking at was alive and still with all its feathers.

That'll be it for a while now, but if you're all still interested, I'll post some more when I get back from my trip.


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