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 Post subject: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 21:25 
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I was rereading the beginning of Problem with the discussion between Mrs Gay and Rosamund's mother. This set me thinking:

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"Because the Rector and I thought you were the girl who would profit most," Mrs. Gay told her briskly. "No use sending a shy mouse like Marlene Dixon or a girl like your young next-door neighbour or that other child she's so chummy with—what's her name?—Kathleen Stevens, isn't it? It lay between you and Pamela Johnson and the Johnsons are leaving here in a month's time. Mr. Johnson has got a move up," she went on, turning to Mrs. Lilley. "He's going to the head factory at Coventry. In any case, Mrs. Johnson tells me Pamela wants to go to a business college for shorthand and typing when she's fifteen and then get a job as soon as she's qualified. So four more years of school. held no prospect for her."


My feeling from this is that actually Pamela Johnson was the Gay's first choice for the scholarship (why discuss it with her mother if you didn't mean to give it to her?).

It set me thinking about other plot devices that could have gone another way and dramatically changed what happened - if, for instance, Robin and the others had been caught by the crowd after Herr Goldman, would the rest of the school have been allowed to escape? What if other girls had found out the truth about Gertrud(e)? What if Peggy and Dickie had been injured by the falling tree? What if Tom had refused all scholarships and didn't go on to Switzerland?

What other ways might the series have been different?

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 21:33 
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I've always wondered what the later books would be like if Joey had had a singleton first rather than triplets...

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 22:19 
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I'd like to have seen Madge and Jem go out to Switzerland along with everyone else: I think the series loses something when the founder of the CS and the founder of the San are left on the sidelines, and also I don't think Joey would have become as overbearing as I find her in the later books had Madge been around to get involved in school matters as well.

Joey could easily have died in Rivals, and Jack in Highland Twins.

If EBD had waited just a bit longer, the school could have gone back to Tyrol instead of to the Oberland ... but I'm glad she didn't because it leaves the Tyrolean years as a lovely golden era. I think she could've chosen somewhere more CS-esque than Herefordshire for the war period, though: she could've carried on with the sudden falls of mist, falling in lakes, getting stranded on mountains etc by restarting the school in the Lake District or the Scottish Highlands. Not that there's anything wrong with Herefordshire :D : there's just not that much scope for accidents and adventures.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 09 Jan 2012, 22:51 
Mine are all very apocalyptic!

Joey dying in Rivals is the obvious one, I suppose - and Madge broken-heartedly closing down the CS as a result? Or leaving it entirely to Mademoiselle and having nothing more to do with it?

St Scholastika's unexpectedly flourishing because of Miss Browne's hard sell advertising, and creaming off all the UK pupils who would otherwise have attended the CS, meaning the CS quickly starts being essentially for non-UK girls only as a result, and all the British girls who join the CS in the 'real' timeline after Rivals end up as Saints instead?

Eustacia escapes the flood, manages to get to England, writes to the Times about her ill-treatment at the CS, it gets massive press publicity, an investigation is mounted, and the school is briefly notorious as a sort of Dotheboys Hall (Dothegirls Hall)? :) Eustacia lives happily ever afterwards in Oxford, rubbing her hands in glee.

Joey, bored at the prospect of life on the Sonnalpe, does go to Belsornia as Elisaveta's lady in waiting and marries a Belsornian cavalry officer, and Jack marries Grizel instead. They have four sons, all singletons, who never appear in any CS books.

The CS authorities decide that, after they leave Austria and realise there is no realistic prospect of returning any time soon, the school needs to be renamed, as having a chalet reference in Guernsey, Armishire and off the coast of Wales sounds a bit holiday-campish...? The new name is St Margaret's in honour of the foundress.


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What if they didn't leave Tirol at all, and outwardly conformed to whatever the Nazis wanted them to teach, while mounting some kind of covert resistance... and I suppose, hiding the "undesirable" people in the basement!


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PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 00:06 
Miss Annersley picks up the cannister dropped from a German plane in order to receive her next instructions from the 'enemy'?


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Interesting topic, KB!

I think there are only a few plot points that could be changed which would massively change the way the series goes, probably involving Madge or Joey. And I think they'd have to happen near the beginning for it to have any impact.

What if all the teachers who were in the bus crash in Gay died, or were too ill to return to work for months, and Miss Bubb was able to do what she liked? I'd have loved to see what EBD would have done if Jack had died, and Joey was left as a widow with three (or would it still have been four?) children. Would Robin have become a nun in that situation, I wonder?

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
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Madge marries Mr Kettleworth and goes back to UK, leaving Mdle and then Jo to run the school.


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What if Miss Bubb was seriously nice - still as keen on exams and academic work, but really nice and understanding with it? I am vaguely plotting a drabble to this effect.


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Mrs Redboots wrote:
What if Miss Bubb was seriously nice - still as keen on exams and academic work, but really nice and understanding with it? I am vaguely plotting a drabble to this effect.


Oh that's a lovely idea - to the extent maybe that the exam results soar into the stratosphere and there is no space for Hilda and Nell to return :shock:

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cestina wrote:
Mrs Redboots wrote:
What if Miss Bubb was seriously nice - still as keen on exams and academic work, but really nice and understanding with it? I am vaguely plotting a drabble to this effect.


Oh that's a lovely idea - to the extent maybe that the exam results soar into the stratosphere and there is no space for Hilda and Nell to return :shock:

Noooooo! :shock: You can't do that.....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 18:59 
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MaryR wrote:
cestina wrote:
Mrs Redboots wrote:
What if Miss Bubb was seriously nice - still as keen on exams and academic work, but really nice and understanding with it? I am vaguely plotting a drabble to this effect.


Oh that's a lovely idea - to the extent maybe that the exam results soar into the stratosphere and there is no space for Hilda and Nell to return :shock:

Noooooo! :shock: You can't do that.....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I was waiting for that :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
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I'd quite like it if all the people who reckoned they weren't going to get married actually stayed single. What would a single, independent, Joey (for example) get up to ?


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If they had kept the kindergarten co-ed-ness going all the way up the school.....I often wonder what happened to proud little Edmund Eltringham...


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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
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How about a boys' branch of the Chalet School?

Also, what if the 3rd triplet had been a boy - Stephen? He had been the delicate one and sent to Canada. After Joey promised him he wouldn't be sent so far away again, he would have been sent to school in England after moving to Switzerland.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 19:41 
Or if Joey only ever had boys, and kept trying to have girls, without success?


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julieanne1811 wrote:
Or if Joey only ever had boys, and kept trying to have girls, without success?


Someone did a drabble with this theme, can't remember who, or what was called, but it's in the archives somewhere


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MaryR wrote:
cestina wrote:
Mrs Redboots wrote:
What if Miss Bubb was seriously nice - still as keen on exams and academic work, but really nice and understanding with it? I am vaguely plotting a drabble to this effect.


Oh that's a lovely idea - to the extent maybe that the exam results soar into the stratosphere and there is no space for Hilda and Nell to return :shock:

Noooooo! :shock: You can't do that.....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


It's not a problem - can see Hilda and Nell being very successful setting up their own School... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Alternate Chalet School Universe
PostPosted: 10 Jan 2012, 21:15 
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It's not a problem - can see Hilda and Nell being very successful setting up their own School... :wink:


It's just that when they do it very successfully half a mile down the road from Plas Howell that we get Rivals of the CS II! :D


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I wish Phil Craven had stayed on. I think the Swiss CS would've benefited from a good nemesis character :wink: - someone along the lines of Lois Sangster in the Kingscote books, who was popular with the juniors in her own way and held an important prefectship, but was at odds with the heroine (i.e. Mary-Lou).

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